| Author | Message | ||
     Midknyte |
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/18november08_aprili amanax.htm  | ||
| 4cammer |
Yeah, but this time Aprilia has done it so all of the US based magazines will hail it as a new movement in motorcycling. Sarcasm off.... | ||
| Ratbuell |
That's OK. At least *we're* smart enough to know the truth...  | ||
| Jaimec |
Vyrus and Bimota did that too, by the way... | ||
| Midknyte |
This one was curious - first time I've seen anyone else put the muffler AND the shock underneath... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
The rear shock and muffler are slung underneath, à la Buell. I like it. The only thing I would change... Put a 5" ROUND headlight on it and it would be perfect.... for me. | ||
| Froggy |
Stupid question, I have looked here on badweb but didn't find an answer, what are the pros/cons of the shock mounted below the engine like that? | ||
| Hughlysses |
what are the pros/cons of the shock mounted below the engine like that? Pro- It moves another piece of heavy hardware as low and as centrally located as possible. Con- Shock competes for space with the muffler (assuming underslung exhaust). Preload adjustment is kind of awkward. Limited selection of aftermarket shocks due to pull-action configuration of shock. Seems like some people didn't like the idea of the pull action shock/spring but from an engineering standpoint, I don't see where it makes any difference. At least once company made a kit consisting of a conventional push type shock with a linkage that allowed it to be underslung. Seemed like a huge unnecessary complication to me. (Message edited by Hughlysses on November 19, 2008) | ||
| Ducbsa |
Didn't the Britten have some bellcrank linkage underneath? | ||
| Miamiuly |
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| Tramp |
Judging from the reflection of the pink fender directly below that muffler, along with the scrapes/burns on it, I'd say that the pictured Britten employs a very poorly thought-out articulated muffler configuration. Why do firms complicate things that could have been kept very simple? | ||
| Tramp |
One thing that Aprilia's concept employs to set it apart is the reversed lower exhaust/muffler- Outstanding exhaust gas cooling mechanism that allows for longer, less turbulent header curves. Do any of the Buells employ this feature? | ||
| Miamiuly |
I think you are seeing reflections, don't remember seeing scrapes when I shot the pic. And it was less of a firm than a guy and some friends.  Just in case  | ||
| Miamiuly |
Pics are from the, "Art of the Motorcycle" display when it was in Orlando. I went basically to see the Britten. This was there too.  And one more of the Britten  | ||
| Tramp |
Any statement that describes the associated subject as "a perfectly balanced motorcycle" loses all credibility, and amounts to a moto-CV The white, jagged marks on the top of the fender in the first shot appear to be scrapes | ||
| Trojan |
Any statement that describes the associated subject as "a perfectly balanced motorcycle" loses all credibility, and amounts to a moto-CV Do you know anything about the Britten? If any motorcycle can be described as perfectly balanced it would be John Britten's creation. Just ask any of the factory teams that he regularly beat with is home brewed 'special' Do any of the Buells employ this feature? Some do  | ||
| Hootowl |
That Buell, I believe, was the only motorcycle on display that was ridden to the museum. | ||
| Miamiuly |
Did someone say Bimota?  How about an early, "rotary" steering damper  on this  I'm going to start a new thread with the Art of Motorcycle shots. | ||
| Tramp |
Trojan- I am familiar with Britten, and, as exampled in your post " ...If any motorcycle can be described as perfectly balanced..." (Emphasis on "if") NO motorcycle can be described thusly, lest it stand on its own 2 wheels, at rest, with or without rider. Further, the "Buell" you example is a custom, with the exhaust fabbed by an individual, NOT BMC. Same could be done with a Vespa, wouldn't make said marque an avatar of engineering prowess. | ||
| Buelliedan |
The Buell in the pictures above was not riddent to the show. The Buell that was rode to The Art of the motorcycle show was an RS1200 that was on display when the show was in Vegas. That buell belonged to Aaron Wilson and was ridden from Colorado to Vegas by Court Canfield. That Buell now resides in the Netherlands along with RR1000 #50. (Message edited by buelliedan on November 20, 2008) | ||
| Hootowl |
Ah, thanks Dan, I knew it was something like that. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
NO motorcycle can be described thusly, lest it stand on its own 2 wheels, at rest, with or without rider. didn't believe it until i've sat on a deluxe, kickstand up and feet on the floorboards and it sat there very well balanced. try it for yourself. | ||
| Court |
That is correct. It was a bet with Ultan Guilfoyle and some of The Guggenheim Riding Club. It started when the Blue RS-1200 in the New York debut of the show was not available for the Las Vegas show. I told them I knew where to get one and they were starting all the "custom carriage" and send a mechanic to pack it stuff and I started laughing . . "It's a BUELL MOTORCYCLE, I'll tell you how you get it there . . .fuel, start and RIDE" They, including David Crosby, were agast. True to form Aaron didn't bat an eye, had the bike fueled and ready. I spent the night at his place and headed down the dirt road at 3:30AM. Stopped in Beaver Creek . . . held two cups of coffee to thaw my hands in the freezing temps. Made good time, better in view of the fact that I took a "side trip" to shoot all the photos at sunset in Bryce Canyon, and arrived in a 112o Las Vegas with a bug covered, war torn looking Buell. I suspect that eventually Aaron, a math whiz, did the "miles traveled divided my time it took" equation. I didn't want to bring it up but it was only the 2nd time in the United States I'd ever spent 60 minutes in triple digit speeds. The bike was a frickin' joy. The RS-1200 is an amazing bike. Back in the early 90's I used to hop on my red one and take paychecks to all my construction sites every Thursday. Just as my friends were headed to the golf course . . I was breaking my "day on the Buell" smile. Court |
