| Author | Message | ||
     2008xb12scg |
Do you gues think that Buell will ever make an I4 to ad to the line up? From what little I know (mostly learned on Badweb) The Vtwin and the I4 both have advantages and disadvantages. I'm sure the H.D. guys might think it's criminal to sujest but it would be cool. Don't get me wrong I love my vtwin and wouldn't trade it for the world, but an I4 next to it made by Buell... | ||
| Xl1200r |
I would doubt it. The V-twin is kind of what makes a Buell a Buell, much like a Ducati. I can see Buell doing a v-four, or some other less typical design, but I would be VERY surprised if an I4 was in Buell's future. | ||
| Hr_puffinstuff |
Harley prototyped a I4 back in the early 70's or late 60's. not sure why they killed the idea. IIRC, it was called .....the X i'll take a V4 lightning long w/ hard bags, please | ||
| Crusty |
An I-4?  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
V4 maybe. Torque of a twin, HP of an IL4. With MV being in the same stable, we might see some weird pairings, though. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
I've never ridden anything other than my lightning and a Blast so I really don't know first hand the differances anyway. I do think it would be nice if there was a few choices made here in the good ol' U.S.A. So if somebody wanted an American made IL4 they had the option. | ||
| Cowboy |
I remember some one on this board saying Buell would never have a water cooled motor. Never say never. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Well, with the acquisition of MV Agusta there's really no need for Buell to ever go inline. It'll be really cool to see Vtwin Buells and inline MV's sold side by side in the US. Hopefully it's something we will see one day. | ||
| Trojan |
There was a rumour a little while ago that Buell wanted to get a slice of the 600 supersport pie. If there is any truth in it then they will not be able to use a V-twin configuration for that displacement and be competitive (even the 750 OHC V-twins such as Ducati 749 & Apriia Shiver/Dorsoduro etc are no match for the 600 IL4 sportsbikes these days). Triumph have their 3 cylinder 675 in the same ballpark, so there are other configurations that work too \imagelink2 With the aquisition of MV (who already have advanced plans for a IL4 600cc supersport bike), it would be very easy for the Mothership to engage in some badge engineering, so we could theoretically see a Buell IL4 or even an MV V-Twin. Now an 1125R motor with MV styling would be really something....  (Message edited by trojan on October 09, 2008) | ||
| Jlnance |
Do you gues think that Buell will ever make an I4 to ad to the line up? Every time I make guesses about what Buell will do, I end up being wrong. HD just bought MV which already produces an I4 bike. So HD now has that base covered, alleviating any corporate need that may have existed for Buell to do one. The Buell people may want to do one, and having the MV motor would save them the development costs1. But the sense I get is the Buell people do not want to do one. A lot of their business philosophy is built around the idea that Vtwin engines are better on the street than IL4s. -- 1I've worked in corporate environments long enough to know it's not a given that just because MV has an IL4 engine, that Buell is free to use it. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Harley prototyped a I4 back in the early 70's or late 60's. not sure why they killed the idea. IIRC, it was called .....the X Nope. HD prototyped a V4, in conjunction with Porsche, called the "Nova" project http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/04/06/harle y-davidson-v4-nova/ http://www.bikerenews.com/AntiqueBikes/CodeNameNov a.htm} | ||
| Jaimec |
From 1923 up until 1983 (sixty years), BMW was synonymous with the flat twin air cooled engine. In 1983, they introduced the IL4, water-cooled "K" series. They now produce singles, flat twins, parallel twins, and two different IL4 engines (as well as a discontinued IL3). Never say "Never." | ||
| White |
I wish they did. At work I fit the tool to the job I'm doing and I think that your motorcycle should be the same way. That's why motor company's produces different models in the first place. My blast was great around town but I wanted to eat up some corners so I bought a firebolt for that (different tool for a different job). | ||
| Midknyte |
I remember some one on this board saying Buell would never have a water cooled motor. Someone, but not Buell. An oft' misconstrued statement. I asked him personally and he only said that water cooling "was not necessary" to meet EPA reg's. Water cooling was always somewhere in BMC's future - if for no other reason, you gotta build what people will buy. | ||
| Ted |
oh boy a pushrod I4 ! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
oh boy a pushrod I4 ! They work just fine for Corvette. | ||
| Azxb9r |
They work just fine for Corvette. A pushrod in-line 4 in a Corvette you say...  | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I'll be happy if Buell were still around in 3 years from now. JDPowers is predicting a collapse in auto sales for 09. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Mv has an in-line 4. But aren't they really expensive bikes? I would think if they (Bueel/H.D.) saw a demand they would build it. But very few people I know care about buying an American bike. With that mentality why not buy a Kawihonzuki? Unless Erik builds a better one for the same $ or less $. | ||
| Edgydrifter |
I'd like to see Buell (or anyone) do an updated square 4, because, heck--why not? It was a darned cool motor. Actually, wasn't the Buell RW750 a square? Bring it back! | ||
| 4cammer |
"I'll be happy if Buell were still around in 3 years from now. JDPowers is predicting a collapse in auto sales for 09." It has been a long time coming, at least for the domestic car makers - and that is not an easy thing for me to say. When the Fit, Yaris, Accent and the French looking car from Nissan came out, all we got from the so-called big three was another giant SUV or crew cab for personal use trucks. Car (more like SUV) sales next year may be in the crapper- and I for one will not miss the ginormous Escalade on every corner, but I bet the Fit and the soon to come Fiesta go for near MSRP all year long. Sorry for the hijack... | ||
| Beachbuell |
Buell and I4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be the devil! | ||
| Zane |
Actually, I think a V-4 on a Buell might be kind of cool. Think short stroke for higher revs and a double ton of torque from just above idle all the way up. Anyone else think the idea might have some merit? | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I'd love to see it!! Lets not forget the 300 pounds or less Motard.... | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
I think the v4 would be an awsome idea. The inline 4 would suck ad turn buell in too every other type of sport bike out there. Maybe buell will go back to there roots and do another square 4 | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Turn it side ways and make it a shaft drive..... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
with a turbo.... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
and a fogger... | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Honda's been powering with a V4 for 20+ years. VFR's are arguably the most proficient, efficient, and long lasting motorcycles on the planet. You can find plenty of VFR 800's that go north of 100K. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Except a VFR800 is underpowered and uber heavy. I would look to the new Aprilia for a V4 benchmark. |
