| Author | Message | ||
     Ft_bstrd |
I'm not a big Glock fan. It isn't that it's a bad weapon. I just don't like the crudeness of it. It's like the difference between a Thompson's and a "grease gun". Do they both work? Sure. Is the workmanship the same? Not even close. I think the reason they became popular was that they were the first major composite frame. Were they not, no one would have paid them much notice. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
 vs.  Both will knock a man down. The Thompson's is just better made and more refined. | ||
| Cowboy |
By the way the wife carries a walther 380 it is a small and lite weapon it dont have the power the larger weapons have but I dought any one with a slug or two in them will have sex on his mind. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I have actually been thinking of either the PPK or the P232 as a back up weapon. "Knock down" is a matter of placement. | ||
| Court |
>>>>it would be an 8" Colt Python with a good scope. Extra points . . . . for reading my mind. I've no idea why . . . I suppose just familiarty . . I'm similarly bound to a Smith and Wesson 686. It's big, ugly, not nearly the equal of the Phython. . . but it and I know each other well. It's totally UN-carry friendly but I do just the same. It also. . . . unlike the 9mm. . . has the luxury of making enough noise and flash to clear a room in the event I miss. I really hate living in NYC and miss my pistols, rifles and shotguns which all had to stay in Lawrence, KS where the laws respect the 2nd Amendment. New York City . . as those of you in the business know . . has an entirely unique view of handguns. I think it was supposed to deter crime . . . frankly, a bit of persona opinion here . . but I can't imagine anything that would deter crime better than knowing that 30% of the other shoppers in the store COULD be carrying a concealed weapon and be trained to use it. I guess my thinking is still shaped by Luby's. Interesting how many badwebbers are carrying weapons. If you are at Homecoming ask me the story about the motorcycles, pistols and the Arbuckle Mountains. | ||
| Old_man |
Gun laws only deter law abiding, honest, citizens from having a gun. Criminals don't give a damn about the law. What good are they?? Obviously, the lawmakers, foolishly, believe everyone will obey the laws they make. | ||
| Old_man |
The Python was the Cadillac of revolvers. My first duty revolver was a 6 inch Colt Official Police. I paid $56.00 for a brand new one at one of the big department stores in downtown Pittsburgh. I would have liked a Python, some of the guys bought them, but I couldn't afford one at the time. | ||
| Court |
I had respect for the Phyton from the day I watched my old Kansas State University roomie (later an FBI undercover in the former Soviet Republic and Pistol champion) shoot blue rock with it in Concordia, KS. To do that you have to be a damn good shot and have a damned good pistol. He lauded the Phyton among his various weapons. I always kidded him that late some night in Houston that bad buys would make the mistake of saying "heck, he's two blocks away, let's run". Funny tale . . you're old enough to remember. . . I called his wife one day (Michelle was VP of a large well known petroleum company in Houston) and asked if Ron was there. "No, he had to run up to Waco . . something is happening there. He should be back in a couple hours". Opps. . . more like a couple months.  | ||
| Old_man |
I carried a firearm for over 40 years, everyday. I still own 4 handguns. A Glock .40, sub compact, a S&W .357 2.5 barrel, stainless, a S&W .38 snubnose hammer-less, stainless. I now carry a little Kel-Tec .32 with a laser sight. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I live somewhere where I don't need one. Got an old 16bore side by side & a bolt action 9mm garden-gun. That's enough for any vermin round here. If I had the need for a hand-gun I'd get one of those revolvers that takes 410 shotgun cartridges, that or make myself a "Lupara". I figure if trouble is that close, I'd want something that wont miss! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Our "vermin" are a little bigger here. | ||
| Pwnzor |
If you really want to get a reliable weapon, nothing...NOTHING beats a revolver. Plain and simple, they fire every single time. You pull the trigger, you get results. If the bullet fails, well that's not the gun's fault is it? Added benefit, you take your evidence with you when you leave the scene. No pesky casings on the ground to lead anyone back to you. Here's a great little CCW weapon, .357 caliber. Five rounds is more than enough. Weighs 25 oz. Ruger Firearms  | ||
| Doughnut |
Depends, what is the intended use? (I do Glock 40 cal. About 3500 rnds a year and only one "stove pipe", but that was due to weak wrist. (Message edited by Doughnut on April 13, 2008) | ||
| Pwnzor |
The intended use for CCW is to kill a man, or men, who intend to do you or your family harm. In my view, there is no other ultimate purpose to carry a concealed weapon. When the threat presents itself, you eliminate it. Any shot not intended to kill is the shortest possible path to civil and criminal liability. Dead men tell no tales. | ||
| Madduck |
I really enjoy the Kimber but it doesn't equal the overall usefullness of the Springfield XD. Much easier to clean up and it shoots at least as well. That large square frame gets a lot of respect. Hard to beat boom and flash for deterence. 20 gauge pump for home use tho and it shoots pheasant and duck too. | ||
| Old_man |
Home defense: 12 gauge, short double barrel Coach gun. Exposed hammers - simple, and a great deterrent - those two giant bores. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Pwnzor, Great handgun you've mentioned. My wife loves it and can shoot it all day long with .38's on board. Dead-nuts reliability can't be beat IMHO. Home defense? Saiga 12 w/19" barrel always has 10 ready to go. | ||
| Dynasport |
Home defense - Remington Model 870 The next pistol I purchase will likely be the S&W Model 642 with laser grip. But I like light, easy to conceal, revolvers. I have just always preferred the feel of a revolver. And as reliable as my Glock has been, revolvers just don't jam. Plus, I live in Florida and like to dress light. Small guns are just easier to conceal and more comfortable to carry. I know I am in the minority, though. Most people like the firepower of a semi-auto. But for now, I have no choice. It is the Glock. | ||
| Court |
>>>Home defense - Remington Model 870 Pretty much unanimous. 2 - #8 2 - #4 4 - #0000 Other recipies? | ||
| Loki |
Home defense is not the name of the game. Should some body that is uninvited and unwanted enters.... I will be on the offensive. My black gun is a Mossberg 500. One with a Mesa Tactical AR adapter and M4 stock. The HOLO sight is overkill though. It will have the new "breacher" barrel soon enuff. The "not so" black gun is another 500 with a Butler Creek folder on it. The Cougar .40 will be used to get my CC this summer. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Other recipies? My favorite buckshot load is Federal Low-Recoil 000 -- if we're speaking of home defense. I've owned 2 870's and they're very good shotguns. I kind of fell in lust with Saiga and had to have it. I've still got a couple Mossberg 500's around for outdoor shotgun work and I like them too. The Saiga caught my attention a couple years ago and at first I was dismissive of the product line. After spending a day shooting one I found that I really like a 12ga that holds 10 rounds -- you can't never have too many IMHO. | ||
| Fballz |
Home defence: 9mm Desert Eagle(Baby Eagle) .50 Cal Desert Eagle AE  SKS 7.62 2 ninga swords bunch of chefs knifes | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I have a Louisville Slugger I'm quite fond of.  | ||
| 4cammer |
Hey guys- Cool replies to my original thread, but I think I may have worded it a bit wrong. Was not looking for a recommendation but just more of a question of preference and why. This is an older, more experienced crowd and I knew there would be some shooters here. I have been a shooter for some 25 years or so, former military and a proud gun owner. My collection changes from time to time but my Kimber Target (series 1) will never leave the collection, nor will my S&W 539 or CZ85 Combat. Never had a poly gun and most likely never will. Scratch that as I do have a Ruger PC9 9mm carbine that is an excellent weapon for its given purpose. As I see it some like the poly guns for the ease of use, light weight and minimal training needed. I like the 1911 because it pretty much is not any of those things. Kind of why I ride a Buell and not a Honda?? | ||
| Loki |
The Beretta(now Stoeger) Cougar fits the bill as being different. It is a closed slide design(unlike the 92) with a unique barrel lock-up. In stead of rocking in and out of battery, the barrel rotates. I have a .40 and the recoil is less than my old S&W 915(9mm). As a Beretta it could be had in 9, .40, .41AE, .357sig and .45 As a Stoeger only in 9 and .40 Under the Stoeger name it is still a Beretta. By design and tooling being used to produce them. Yes, the Beretta parts do fit. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I guess the question I would have, then, is what do you plan to do with it? If you are looking to add a polymer frame, I recommend the H&K over the Glock. If you have a Kimber, the 1911 seems a duplicate. | ||
| M1combat |
For home defense I prefer a 12ga. One of Benelli's semi autos (like an M1Combat). If someone is in my house that shouldn't be I don't want them hearing me rack a slide. | ||
| Mikej |
For those of you visiting WI this summer, just be aware that WI is a funny state when it comes to firearms. There is no legal CCW for regular folks, and while open carry is technically legal it is functionally illegal from my understanding. (Message edited by mikej on April 14, 2008) | ||
| Nautique4life |
Fats, Nice pick up. Did you go with the USP.40? If so, very nice. That is the very gun I have. I have put about 3000 rounds through mine without a hiccup. Wait, I take that back. I did have a misfire. But I was using a neighbors 'homemade subsonic' round and one of those didn't discharge. He was there when it happened and said it was a bad primer. SO in my eyes, the gun has never let me down. Smooth, dependable and sexy. +1 for exposed hammer!! Ambidextrous clip release? Smart. The gun breaks down with ease, which for me is a added +, as I enjoy cleaning after putting a couple hundred rnds through it at the range each time. And lest I mention the built in accessory rail? I currently don't have anything attached to mine. But foresee a Laser sight coming in the future. I'm eager to know what you think/thought about your cold steel upon returning from the range. Also, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay? Did you ever call the place I told you about? | ||
| Aldaytona |
After reading hundreds of gun related blogs and articles, seems like most self proclaimed "gun experts" carry J frame Smith and Wessons as their every day, always with them, never leave home without it personal weapon. They almost always have other, more powerfull, compact weapons that they carry as well or instead of, but the J frame is a combination of light, powerful, and is sure to go bang every time the trigger is pulled. I know that when my life depends on a concealed firearm, it sure is going to be a Smith and Wesson J frame. |
