| Author | Message | ||
     Dynarider |
Read the description of this pulley setup & see if it makes sense to you. How can a part which is stock on the 04 V-rods be considered a race part if you install it on an earlier V-rod??? | ||
| Cyclone1 |
Who cares...its a non-cornering V-rod  Frank | ||
| Dynarider |
Who cares...its a non-cornering V-rod That has the motor folks wish was in a Buell & also outsold Buell. | ||
| Cyclone1 |
That friggin thing is too heavy, and too big to put in a Buell. People can wish until they're blue in the face, but I bet ya a dollar to a donut that we'll never see it happen. Do you have a Buell anymore by the way? I think you'd look right at home on a V-rod  Might give ya something new thing to bitch about  Frank | ||
| Jonathan |
My V-Rod has been a hell of a lot more reliable than the X-1 I had. That X-1 was the biggest mistake of a purchase that I ever made. Now that my wife enjoys riding, the V-Rod is the best of both worlds. It corners better than any other cruiser and has a ton of power. The lack of lean angle keeps me from getting carried away. | ||
| Cyclone1 |
I'm glad you're happy with your V-rod Jonathan H-D does make one hell of a nice product don't they? Buell is making one hell of a comeback though...I don't care how bad you hate em' you gotta admit that Frank | ||
| Spiderman |
>>>> That has the motor folks wish was in a Buell & also outsold Buell. Nope not at all. If I wanted A go fast bike I would get a R1. Love my Buell wouldn't change anything bout her. >>>>>That X-1 was the biggest mistake of a purchase that I ever made. Sorry to hear that John, may I ask what happened. | ||
| Dynarider |
Sorry to hear that John, may I ask what happened He already told ya..bought an X1 Frank..ya I still have the X1..wanna buy it? LOL | ||
| Cyclone1 |
LOL, if I had the cash just laying around, I prolly would, hehe. Then again, I already have 4 motorcycles sitting in my garage Gonna need a bigger garage sometime soon......HAHA Frank | ||
| Newfie_buell |
Frank, Both yourself and Greg can send the spare/excess bikes over my way. You may even convinve me to pay the shipping while they are stored in my garage. | ||
| Jonathan |
Frank, I never said anything about hating Buell! If I hated Buells do you think I would be over on this board? Buell has come a long way in just one year. The one xb9r that I have ridden was nice and it felt a lot better than the previous bikes. Ride what makes you happy....... | ||
| Imonabuss |
Nothing makes Dyna happy except bashing Buell. I don't want my Firebolt to have a 60" wheelbase and weigh 50 lbs more to put a V-Rod in it. What's the point? If you want an XB buy one, if you want a V-Rod buy it instead. Get a life, Dyna. People are reading you, but no one is listening... | ||
| Bomber |
We DO listen to Dyna, Harvey (or should I say Steve?) . . . . there are, from time to time, grains of truth to Dyna's screeds (the non-Buell ones, at an rate), and, more often, amusment to be had, so we DO listen . . . we just don't take lot of it seriously is all | ||
| Dynarider |
See Bomber has the right attitude. Lighten up Buss man Besides I do give ya info here, post some pics, etc. Been all over the 2004 models digging up what I can. | ||
| Dynarider |
BTW Buss, you will notice it was jonathon that slammed the Buells not me. I gave pics & info on the new V-rod belt & asked why the kit is a race part yet is stock on the 04 models. Can you answer the question & contribute or no? | ||
| Mikej |
Dyna, Could the 04 primary and/or tranny ratios be different from the 02/03 models? Could be that H-D Legal has deemed that anything other than stock should be considered "race". If so then those leather handlebar grip tassles will soon be declared "for race application only" as well.  | ||
| Dynarider |
Mike, from what I have seen so far the ratios are the same. Its only the belt & pulley thats different. Its just weird that a part thats stock on 1 yrs model would be considered a "race" part on a different model yr. | ||
| Mikej |
Maybe it has to do with the speedo error that will result from a final drive ratio change. Wouldn't want to cause anyone to get a speeding ticket so they put the disclaimer in there. Why is an air filter considered a race only application device? How about an exhaust/muffler? There are at times it seems no logic to marketing and legal applications of judgements and disclaimers. Got the WileyCo back on the M2 today, guess I be illegalified again, mercy me next thing you know I'll be wearing a do-rap on me head.  | ||
| Dynarider |
They have the matching ecm to go along with the gear ratio change as well. You are right tho, it makes no sense how they pick & choose what is or isnt a race part. A 1550 big bore kit or some screaming beagle stuff is fine & road legal & wont void the warranty, yet like you said an air filter change will cause your warranty to possibly be null & void. | ||
| Mikej |
Wait, did I say I put the WileyCo back on the bike? I must have been mistaken, I was just thinking about it, it's not really there, still the stock exhaust, stock airbox as well, perfectly stock, keep your eyes on the swinging pocket watch, perfectly stock, perfectly stock, perfectly stock. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Whew, that was close. | ||
| Bomber |
I knew you wouldn't so callously flaunt the law, Mike . . . .but ya had me worried there for a moment . . . .. now, just go back to the garage, and remove the "for off-road competition only" luggage rack system thingie from the poor dear . . . . sheeesh | ||
| Mikej |
Actually I think the luggage gear had an "on road use only" disclaimer. I can't win for loosing. And now they're doing the layoff dance around here again today so I'd best lay low for a bit. | ||
| Cyclone1 |
I don't "think" any of the screaming beagle performance stuff is "road legal". At least according to EPA. Do they follow up on it? Probably not. Interesting enough, one of the guys at the shop went to S.E. class, and they told them that they better not put any S.E. stuff on, unless the bike is delivered on a trailer without a tag, and they sign a disclaimer of some flavor. Otherwise the dealership could open themselves up for a major law suit. It's ignorant, I know. Who the hell would off-road a friggin bagger??? It's H-D's way of protecting themselves against the noise police. As far as voiding the warranty, I'd have to check with higher powers to be, but I'm fairly certain the warranty is good, as long as the work is performed by an authorized dealership. It really cracks me up, how they're getting away with the race tuner for the Delphi's. You can retain your warranty on everything EXCEPT driveline components, if you install a race tuner. So motor, primary, tranny, belt, etc. problems come out of your pocket. Once again...who the hell would "off road" a bagger or their precious FLSTF-I. There's no way around it either. H-D knows if a bike has been "race tuned" through the digital tech. So yea, Dyna, I agree with ya on that stuff...makes no damn sense, its just money in their pocket Newfie, LOL, I'm not THAT cramped for space The "vintage" dirtbike is small enough to stick in any corner, the trackbike frame is hanging from the rafters w/ miscellaneous parts strung about, the superglide and the Buell stay right in front of the door. Now if you feel like doing a ground up on my brother's '78 ironhead, I'd let ya have that for a winter or two LOL Jonathan, Maybe you should try one of those 12R's OOOooouUUUU...AAAaaaaaa LOL, I just kinda figured you were starting a career in "Buell bashing" like our good friend Dyna No worries though, we don't care what ya ride...the more the merrier! Frank | ||
| Jonathan |
No Buell Bashing here! I made a comment and that is the end of it. The 12R is one giant piece of eye candy that is for sure!!!!! I really like that black frame. Unless I get a big raise at work or win the lottery, the current ride will have to do for now. | ||
| Aesquire |
A bunch of stuff that is updated on H-D & Buell bikes gets the "competition use only" & "stock on 'xx models" disclaimer tags. Legal reasons. If the (say) footpeg on the '00-03 model is better, neater, or more comfy than the '96-99 footpeg, and bolts right on, without the disclaimer, owners of '96-99 bikes would demand a free upgrade. A gearing change is definitly an E.P.A. matter. Hence the "for Race application only" line. Mikej, did you use any kind of sealant between your header & Wileyco, er, I mean stock muffler? (since it's still stock I assume you have the sudden increase in "hearing sensitivity" that I had when I, um, put the Wileyco sticker on my "Stock" muffler.) edited by aesquire on July 21, 2003 | ||
| Glitch |
If I remember right... In the SE catalog, the parts have a checkered flag or crossed checkered flags. The one flag won't kill the warranty, the crossed flags will. Looks like Dyna's gear kit has the crossed flags icon...go figure... | ||
| Mikej |
Pat, In the previous mounting of the exhaust I regularly blew out the paper/mesh gasket. This time I made up a copper gasket out of hobby copper sheet and then coated it with copper coat sealant. Once I get a few more miles on it I'll know if it's going to hold. I didn't do what I suggested to someone to do a year or so ago, and that is to remove the inlet rivets, bolt the header flange to the inlet cap to get a more-flat sealing surface, then re-poprivet the cap back onto the muffler body. I noticed when I had it disassembled to reweld one of the nuts back on that came loose during disassembly (bad tack weld on the nuts) that the cap is very prone to warping depending on how it is riveted to the body. Real easy to put an accidental diagonal warp into it. I think Bomber did the copper seal as well and he's probably got a few more fresh miles on his setup than my current re-installation. Since I'm apparently not parting out the bike and since I won't give it away, I'll probably leave the stockWileyCo exhaust on for the summer. In about four weeks it's going to get real noisey around these parts and I don't want to get lost in the droning. | ||
| Mikej |
Glitch, the old pirate's bones deal then - open is welcome for dinner, crossed and you be the dinner. Argh  |
