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Mikej
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 08:50 am: | 
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Take your pick:
 or 
http://carfreeusa.blogspot.com/2006/11/commuter-bi cycles-next-big-green-thing.html
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the claims that a 1203cc motorcycle getting 50mpg supposedly pollutes more than a 2500cc car getting 20mpg.
California pee'd in my Cheerios. But many of the people there didn't. |
Hexangler
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:31 am: |
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Ok, here's the other one that I liked. See we even have bees in late December. And as for all "the illegals", I've been here 42 years, and never had a problem, in fact I love the diversity. Little story: I went to a movie once with my relatives in Minnesota, while standing in line with two hundred people (it was a popular new release) I started to feel a little uneasy and out of place. I realized what the weird feeling was--EVERYBODY WAS WHITE JUST LIKE ME. And guess what, a lot of them looked as if they were dirt poor. American Society is funny that way, few rich and many many poor, doesn't matter what color you are, or where you were born. I'm just grateful to have a job that affords food rent buell and some photo/leisure time.
Hex
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Pwnzor
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:53 pm: |
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I feel all warm and fuzzy now, Blake...
I like you too.  |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 02:35 pm: |
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Washington is looking at adopting California emissions as their standard. I guess so many Californians moved up to here that they feel the need to bring that cr@p with them. And the governor is buying it lock stock and barrel. So much so she is trying to get it mandated by 2009, which is why I will be voting her OUT> Already difficult enough to go riding in the woods with her new "nature protection" program. |
Etennuly
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:47 pm: |
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I'm kinda glad California is anal about emissions. Being from Eastern states, it is nice to see a state that doesn't dump as much pollution into the air and let it sweep across the entire nation with the prevailing winds.
When I was a kid pollution of all kinds was running uncontrolled. At that time I was in North Western Pennsylvania where we were down wind of Chicago, Detroit, and everything in Ohio. These areas were and are heavy into manufacturing and I can recall how the rain would stain my dad's white car with rust from dried rain drops.
Not much was done about it until the mid 70's. Much of the things that were fixed were done so following California's lead.
I sure don't agree with everything they do, but some of the things, where they lead the way, have been good things.
A lot of the small stuff seems stupid and unnecessary, but when a half million car enthusiasts want to remove their converters and run open headers with leaded fuel it can impact the environment. Which ones to you tell that it is OK, which ones do you penalize to say "it is not alright"? |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 05:28 pm: |
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I'm just waiting for CARB to hammer Buell on the same pretext as they did Dynojet: that modules marked "Race Use Only" ended up on the street.
$10,000 per box. |
Hexangler
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 05:53 pm: |
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I love the concept of ECMspy!!!!!!!Tweek your bike, then set it straight for testing. |
Mikej
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 08:07 pm: |
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"Tweek your bike, then set it straight for testing"
Can you say "random roadside testing"?
They were interviewing for positions for this several years ago. |
Buellgirlie
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |
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Dora:
Ya wanna reconsider?
You could go back to China for a couple years, I'll straighten out California and drop ya a text message when I've got it ready.
Alternatively, you could take up temporary residence in Texas. You'll find it far more forgiving, no one has to explain how the food you eat was grown by people earning a fair wage and living on non-meat diets and it has a gorgeous landscape.
Sorry about the whole California thing if i'd known you were coming I'd have had it ready. I'll clean it up an soon as possible.
Court
I'm currently in Salt Lake City (for work), admiring the beautiful clean sky and mountains - and the genuine wonderful people. I really have missed living in America! and wow, the consumer goods that are available here - and the customer service! soooooooo nice.
i do love texas. i grew up there, though i'm not sure if i could live there now. perhaps austin. even if i could eat steaks all the time and carry a gun! 
san francisco is wonderful, quirky, charming, sophisticated, urban, interesting - it's a good place for me.
if i go back to china a few years, i may have permanent health damage - no thank you. i still have a hacking cough. i developed it in october. the lonely planet guide says that being in beijing is like smoking 70, yes that is SEVENTY, cigarettes a day. so i've got a year of 3.5 packs of cigarettes a day to get out of my lungs  i love china. i'm conflicted about the cost of its development pace. i will definitely go back - soon for personal travel, and perhaps again for professional reasons.
D |
Buellgirlie
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:10 pm: |
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hex - for like the first two weeks i was back in the USA, i kept looking around (in lubbock texas) -- it *did* feel like "why are all these foreigners here"? the definition for me, from living in china, of foreigner being a standard white dude
D |
Thespive
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 01:14 am: |
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The white road side test vans are already all over the on ramps in LA. Right now they have no authority, but that will change.
--Sean |
Thumper74
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 01:35 am: |
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What kind of emissions will tire smoke emit for them? |
Hexangler
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:42 am: |
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Buellgirlie,
(And anyone else in NorCal on a Buell) We have to hook up. I'm just 1hr. 45min. due East of you. This year will be some great riding. I've been out with Torque up in Redding, met him on this board this year, and probably gained a friend for life.
You be careful in Frisco. Beautiful yes, but DEADLY. Muni Tracks, slick steal plates, FOG, insane drivers on crack, I've seen it all. I have lost too many friends (5+) to that city. YES JUST DEAD. I lived there too. Sad. Bike VS Car. Many odds against us.
Come to the foothills (Roseville to Tahoe) to play. Kathleen and I will put you and your cru up any weekend.
Hex |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:31 pm: |
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Counting the days til the house sells then I am off on the CityXSlicker world tour, to include Russia. I hear tell that the pollution there is atrocious too, I dont know that it would be any better with vehicle EPA emissions as the predominant polluter is industry. I think if they want to impose regs on the bikes, they need to have a firm grasp of what the environmental impact of a bike is and how much more BENEFICIAL it is than a car. And a healthy dose of HTFU |
Buellerandy
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 02:59 pm: |
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How bout a little WTFU. W standing for wise.
Besides, anyone who knows ANYTHING about global warming knows that its been getting warmer and warmer these past decades due to the world being heated by tiny little sources of microwaves emitted by cell phones. Hence turning the world into one big microwave cooker:P
(Message edited by buellerandy on January 10, 2008)
(Message edited by buellerandy on January 10, 2008) |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 01:20 pm: |
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The only way to get people to quit carrying/using their cell phones is to convince them that they cause cancer, sterility, erectile dysfunction, nausea, vomiting, restless leg syndrome, dry mouth,constipation, anxiety, thoughts of suicide, heart palpations, loss of consciousness, dementia, bladder incontinence and/or acid reflux. Yep the root of all evil is the cell phone, now maybe they will back the hell up off my motorcycle and classic cars. |
Rex
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 01:39 pm: |
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Rex here. I now live in Arizona, but I love California. The weather and roads in the Bay area are to kill for. Super all of the time. So much to see and do and all within a few minutes or hours away. If I could afford it, my wife and I would move back in a minute.
Arizona smogs motorcycles. My california motorcycles would not pass Arizona Smog tests, which suprised me. I have to take my bikes down the road to a chopper shop. They have a unit there that tests and they can bring the bikes in spec. Really too bad. The bikes barely run, they sputter, and they have to re adjust the jetting, idle, and take the rings out of the muffler, leaving it wide open...Now tell me a wide open exhaust, spitting and sputtering is better than a fine tuned motor...but it passes. Then they put everything back the way it was.
I have kept my original exhausts and I know I will haveto replace the Vance and Hines/ Kerker exhausts one of these days, and go back to stock.
At least you don't have to do this now. At one time in Oklahoma they had an inspection law, like Blake was talking about. They checked tires, windshields, everything. If your tires were worn, or if you had a crack in the windshield, or if one bulb was burned out on the dash, you did not pass.
I guess we all have something to worry about. We really do need to be careful I see the day where they will pull anyone over, check exhaust emissions, sound test the mufflers, etc.
As far as California, it is a cool state. I have some great friends there, I love the roads, the ocean, the mountains, the desert, and the cities.
Don't forget the first Monday of each month, and our American Sport Bike Night Meeting. You will find Fireman Jim, Jack VanVoast, Woz, Jonathon Rosendall, Jim Armstrong, and a host of who's who in the Buell and Motorcycle World. If there ever was a motorcycle state, it is California. Come see it!
rEX |
Kyrocket
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 11:06 am: |
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Smog, DMV, inspections? What are these foreign words you speak of?
The only time I go to the DMV is to take my pic for the license every five years, and inspections, never.
Must be what happens when all the trees are cut down and you bring in a septillion cars. We may not be fancy but we're free, and boy oh boy these mountain roads. Come on out sometime, I'll show you around. |
Hexangler
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 11:57 am: |
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And this, the first paragraph of our state constitution:
"All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy."
Unlike the US Constitution, in California, you can actually obtain happiness.
Hex |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 01:04 pm: |
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Rex,
They are ALREADY impounding vehicles without the DOT and EPA stamps on exhausts. Admittedly, those were probably a**holes who were harrassing the cops in front of their buddies when pulled over - but it HAS been the law here for some years that we could only have DOT/EPA exhaust systems.
Problem is that the violation is of FEDERAL laws - but can be written up by LOCAL law enforcement.
The Powercommander lawsuit though is CARB and I guarantee that one or two of their non-CA systems made their way onto streetbikes - just as the Buell race ECM has as well.
I like clean air, I just hate muddy water. |
Rex
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 01:17 pm: |
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Impounding personal bikes in california? wow.
I have the vance and hines on the m2, s1, and a kerker on the s2. I have the stock s2 and stock m2 exhausts in the garage closet.
the vance and hines is really too loud now, even with packing. I like a little bit of rumble, but not the super quiet or the super loud. most of the harley guys (arizona is a bike harley state) run the loudest exhaust ever, and always keep the throttle pinned open. You can see the faces of the public. no more is it cool, its a harley, they just log it for future use.
I do have a race ecm on the m2, along with a mikuni.
All three are really too loud to start after 10:30 at night in the neighborhood.
I believe cave creek in arizona has really upped their laws. cave creek was a cool area north of phoenix that a lot of motorcyclist went to, to sit, eat, and look over the city. the locals now have a decibel level and they can check at their cars. If over a particular sound, it is too bad.
oh well.
we will see. |
Madduck
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 09:24 pm: |
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Actually the government has finally pissed off enough people that some are fighting back. 2007 will be the highest year ever for homicides of police officers. This stat isn't getting a lot of publicity for fear of "copy cats", Officers in most big cities now are developing procedure for call response with the idea of it being fake and a setup for ambush. Its getting scary out there and I don't believe this trend will stop easily. |
Pwnzor
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 09:40 am: |
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2007 will be the highest year ever for homicides of police officers. This stat isn't getting a lot of publicity for fear of "copy cats"
...the revolution will not be televised...
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Torquemonster
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 03:20 pm: |
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They have S1W's too. lol. |
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