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Limitedx1
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there anybody else out there who packs a weapon while cruising, traveling, out for a rip on their motorcycle? if so please share why, what model, and method of carry like holster, jacket pocket etc.

ps. my xd 40 sub compact fits in an auxilary moto gp pocket right on my chest. I live in a bad neighborhood and ya just never know.
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Xbullet
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i carried a 1911 on my hip in a milt sparks versamax for several years on cruisers and on long trips on my xb. before that it was a glock 23 mexican carry in the small of my back.

keeping in mind this is not the safest place to have it if you were to take a spill. luckily i wasn't carrying when i did go down. would have broken my hip!

i haven't found a better/safer method than saddlebag or tank bag carry. it's tough to transition sometimes for when you leave the bike, but smaller guns (snubbies) make for easier swaps.

just my .02.
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have carried my 870 xpress 7shot folding stock in my buell sling bag.



no joke.

Never carried any handguns.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Avoid ankle holsters . . . you never know when you may pass a Highway Patrol car in New Jersey, have the wind loft your pants leg to reveal a weapon and find out your concealed weapon.

Hypothetically speaking, such an oversight could cost more than $27,000 in legal fees to keep from loosing ones concealer carry permit in NYC which has the toughest concealed carry laws in the nation. . . . .

Just thinking out loud . . .. .
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Spinzealot
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carry a Glock G29 everywhere I am legally allowed to.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I rode with a friend of mine for 6 years before I found out that he always rides with a S&W J-frame in his boot.

"Oh... I just carry it."

Didn't have a clue he was doing it.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I know is I get a kick out of whacky some of the carry laws are.

In New York State (outside of Metro NYC), you're supposed to be able to get a concealed carry permit - in fact, it's the only handgun permit they have. But local county judges can stamp "Hunting and Target" on the top - effectively enforicing a law they have no right to enforce.

Then you go to Michigan (other states as well) and you don't need a permit to carry a pistol as long as it's NOT concealed, but you need a permit if it is concealed.

I don't carry - in fact I sold my firearms not that long ago - but if I did, I'd put a holster on the handlebar. No sense in carrying a gun that you can't get to right NOW.
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Mm128
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carry... Glock 22 and 27 OFF and ON duty EVERYWHERE and EVERYDAY no matter WHAT i am driving.

Good thing about having a badge... Does NOT matter where I am... I can always carry.... of course the pay kinda sucks... but it does have it perks sometimes.

-Matt.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep my Ruger P95 in the bookbag or luggage.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just carry a smaller framed pistol in your pocket. You probably will not be firing while you are riding unless you are poaching or playing Polo.

Firing from a moving vehicle is not safe.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Firing from a moving vehicle is not safe.

But so much fun!!!
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Slowride
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I carry a kel-tec .380 in my front pocket in a pocket holster.

On my last long trip this summer, I also carried my Baby Eagle 9mm in the tank bag.
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Mm128
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dont fire from a vehicle if WHILE driving the DRIVERS side window is UP.

Trust me.... You will REGRET it...

Matt.
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Spinzealot
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, Matt
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Sath
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you can afford to buy another piece, go with a 380 or a 5 shot 38, and a inside the pant holster. I just carry a Bretta 22, so small I don't even know its there.
Also in NC the state reciprocates with 20 or so other states. Nice to know.
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try an S&W "bodyguard" shielded hammer, snub-nosed, 5-shot .357. Great little self-defense weapon and fits easily in shoulder holster or pocket.
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Mm128
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As a PURE sef-defense gun i would RECOMMEND a caliber LARGER than .22 lr.

Will it do the job... YES.. But i have seen SEVERAL carry an entire mag of .22lr and still be able to fight and hurt others.

Stopping power/ knock down power are good things to look at.

There are some GREAT .40 cal COMPACT weapons on the market as well as some in .45 acp.

One SHOT stops may be the ONLY round you get.

-Matt.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In Wisconsin there is no current CCW provision for non-LEO. And while technically open carry is legal, doing so can run you aground with Disorderly Conduct and other assorted charges, so basically any place you'd be prudent to carry - you can't, and any place you can - you probably don't really need to. But things are changing.

If it were me, and if it were legal (since I have no criminal intent), I'd consider what happens to the firearm in the event of a laydown, low side, high side, or other incident. On the body carry, make sure it is secure in the holster. I did once strap a scabbard onto the side of the M2 once just to see what it would look like, posted a pic of it on the site here years ago. Today, I'd probably just use a tank bag and slip the sidearm into a side pocket. Then when stopped or off the bike just take the tank bag with you.

Things are changing though, and there's some very interesting stuff happening in the U.S.SupremeCourt this week as well.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are some GREAT .40 cal COMPACT weapons on the market as well as some in .45 acp.

No way I could ever CC my supposedly sub-compact GLOCK 30 - it's to big. The 30 is perfect for holster carrying though. I think I'd prefer open carrying a 30 than I would the full size 21.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to carry an H&K usp compact in 40s&W pretty much everywhere I went, but I am currently
without a pistol and besides which I have not gotten around to getting my MO concealed carry
permit.

MO is much easier to get the permit in than back in San Diego. If I hadn't shot IPSC with some
of the Sheriffs deputies I never would have gotten approved because it was at the Sheriff's
discretion. Usually that meant that the rich, famous, and politically powerful got them
and Joe Average on the street did not. Missouri is "Shall Issue" meaning; if you can pass
a safety and skill (shooting) test they have to issue the permit, also assuming you are not
insane or a felon.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

..NYC which has the toughest concealed carry laws in the nation. . . .

better then no carry permit at all

..Does NOT matter where I am... I can always carry.

Are Police Officers allowed to carry in other states?
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Are Police Officers allowed to carry in other states?

No
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Bcordb3
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone mentioned that a .22 is to small for self-defense. Most situations are in the ten foot range. I would think a .22 mag would do the trick. My .02$

North American Arms .22 revolver is a good choice.

Another good choice is a Taurus P111 9 mm. carried in a fanny pack holster.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone have a comprehensive list of reciprocal states? I don't carry sometimes because I'm concerned a border state isn't reciprocal. TN has 9 border states.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are Police Officers allowed to carry in other states?

I don't know about cops but my ex's dad was an air marshal, he could go where every the heck he wanted with a gun
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Mm128
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I work for the State... I have carried in Others with NO problems.

We are required to keep obviously our badge and ID with us.

-Matt.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>he could go where every the heck he wanted with a gun

There's a major difference in doing it and being allowed to do it. I have been known to "go wherever the heck I wanted to" and it was not within the bounds of the rules, just a choice.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think .22's have killed more people than any other weapon in history.
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Cowboy
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a permit to carry in 27 states, lucky for me they are in the states that I travel in. I carry a Glock 40 (model 23) I use a sholder holdster that I fashioned my self weapon rides to my left side with grips forward very easy for a fast draw. I load with 180 HP for carry. I live next door to sheriff and get 50 practice rounds per month free. I practice fireing from bike while moving.(50 to 100 rounds per mo.)
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Sath
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a list of current states that have a agreement with NC. Alabama,Alaska,Arizona,Arkansas,Colorado,Delaware, Florida,Georgia,Idaho,Indiana,Kentucky,Louisiana,M ichigan,Mississippi,Montana,New Hampshire,North Dakota,Ohio,Oklahoma,Pennsylviania,South Carolina,South Dakota,Tennessee,Texas,Utah,Virginia,Washington,Wy oming, and I think it is still in progress.
Court's right, a 22 have taken a lot of lives. I have a 228 9mm in SIG, a 220 in 45 in SIG, but I can carry the little 22 in so many places you don't want to know about, and I do clean it well, kinda slippery at times. And for all the fire power in the world it is still shot placement that counts!! Go to the range and practice, know your weapon!!
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Buellerandy
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I prefer the .45 for home defense, less chance of the round leaving the house than my .357: )


Always hoping that Wi eventually allows concealed carry...


.22's are perfect-lots of ammo for little $ and size doesn't matter when its a headshot.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/118923/boom_headshot /
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