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No_rice
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well monday we finally got my girlfriend a bike of her own. a 2001 blast. it needed a little work so she putted around on it monday and this is what it looked like monday night right before the rocker box came off for some new gaskets.

while doing that i noticed that the clutch cable was a little worn. after looking closely "a little" was an understatment. there were 2 strands left holding it together. a certain female was not very pleased when i said there would be no riding tuesday until i could pick up the new cable and install it. what a pain. pull the top shock bolt and move it, to get at the nuts with a swivel and extention, to remove the foot peg brackets, to remove the inspection cover to change the clutch cable... i was not pleased either.

get that fixed. throw it together. ride wednesday. wednesday there is oil coming out around the wires protruding from behind the timing cover. ok great i think, now i have to change that seal which should have been done with the rocker box removed and pressure taken off of the cam. well i should be able to change it through the timing cover hole if i am lucky. get it home. pull the cover and such off to get back at that seal. what the %^@^% its bone dry in there except around those wires... slightly confused...

i start tracing stuff around and figure out that up on the back of the frame where the oil feed and return lines go the hose was leaking. it was running down into the wrapping that was around the electrical wiring, flowing up behind the timing cover and then flowing back down the outside of the wrapping after it escaped.

change all the fluids. start it up and let it idle in the driveway for a bit and seems to be all good. Jenn proceeds to go for what was supposed to be a short shake down spin and goes opposite of the way we had discussed, as i am starting on my fluid change in the xb. after a bit i started to worry. problem was she left her phone on the table and i had no clue where to begin looking. was about to finish my bike and go looking aimlessly when someone pulls up in the drive with her in the truck. GREAT IT DIED!! *&%*&^&%$ go after the bike and hit the starter and it fires right up. chat with the guy for a minute and it dies. i look at the petcock and see its on reserve which i assume she had done when it stopped. think nothing more of it and haul the bike home. after many failed attempts at starting it and only getting a few backfires and such i tear back into it to fix whatever i had messed up. pull the plug to check spark and there is no gap at all. i am amazed it had run in the first place. i gap the plug. put it in and it fires right up. YIPPIE i think as it idles away for a couple minutes... then death and all is silent. WHAT THE ^%$#$^ i have a small tantrum and throw around a few things then dig in again. still plenty of spark.

now it dawns on me to rethink the situation. i say something about the lever being turned to reserve and say that i assumed she had done it when it died in an attempt to get it going again. NOPE it was that way when it died... duh out of gas! fill it up and away it goes. the dumbest stuff sometimes.

what is amazing is that that thing had 192 miles on it when it ran out. today it had 112 when it sputtered and had to be put on reserve to get it going again. 2.25 gallons to go 112, 49.7 mpg. my xb took 2.25 also had 120ish(cant remember what it was when i figured it) miles on it and didnt have the reserve light on yet. 53.7 mpg wheelies and all. why am i out doing a blast on gas?

to complete my rambelings. we had a GREAT day of riding centered around going to have dinner with my daughter at school. it was a great day.

here they are safely home from the days events.


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Lake_bueller
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm glad to see that my wife's Blast isn't the only one to have rusting exhaust. But it still sucks that they couldn't have made it in stainless
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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you need to get her an exhaust and jets . the difference is like nite and day .

it'll actually sound and go like a motorcycle not like a lawnmower ; )
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that box of left overs still sitting in the back Tim? (You know what I'm talking about ;))
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, May 11, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ahh yes i still have a firebolt head and cams ect sitting around. i doubt i could pry this thing out of her hands to do anything until this winter. i think i will have a hard enough time stripping the body work to paint it without getting in trouble. then there is the whole changing the front fairing and headlight thing...
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

REALLY nice paint job on the XB.
If I see one more Jap bike painted in the Stars and Stripes, I'm gonna...
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PS Throw the XB top end on the Blast with a 7500rpm redline and thats the way the Blast should have come factory!
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and the XB cam with a hi-comp. piston!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on May 13, 2007)
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No_rice
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am hoping to maybe get into doing that this winter. then i will have to see about some recommendations to make those parts work on it!

that box also contains some screaming eagle adjustable pushrods and ignition. its a decent box full of goodies. i cant remember if there is a piston in it or not. i havent looked at the box since last year.
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No_rice
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

her dad came down this weekend so there was even another one in the garage. he picked up a nuclear blue and molten orange 98 S1 last summer. i keep trying to talk him out of it. i love the colors on that bike. the bike looks more redish in the pics though and that sucks

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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Tim,

Tell her Dad he needs to put Either ThunderStorm heads on that puppy.
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No_rice
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we were just discussing that. he is wanting to give it a little more ooomph!
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well then.....XB heads piston's and a set of cam's and she'll honk.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

According to Terry Galigan at Hals, thrown XB heads on, XB9 pistons, stock lightning cams, and you'll have 100-105HP at the rear wheel.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That would be Stock X1 Lightning cams. Yep thats what it nets HP.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like you've got almost everything you need for the Blast. Bolts right on! (except the timing cup needs a little work).

Are stock X1 cams more radical than XB cams? (sorry, dont have those specs)
They might bolt into a Blast easier than the XBs (possible no timing cup issue).

Also looks like you had a great weekend!
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No_rice
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

all these parts came off of a blast that was getting played around with at work. what do you mean by changing the timing cup. i know one of the problems they said they were having was getting it to run good through the whole range. they couldnt get it to have hardly anything off of idle and would have to fight it to get going, but once it hit a certain point it would scream. i know they fought the timing alot.

that was before my time at work though so it is just what i am getting told
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sweet fridge in the driveway
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No_rice
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well where else would it go but in the driveway?!
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

.....XB heads piston's and a set of cam's and she'll honk.

I just went through this ... talking with Terry and Sam at Hal's speed shop ... and Danny Bilanski about it - leave the S1 cams in it (that is what Steve was referring to .. ) - no need for the X1 cams ... xb12 heads, cylinders, xb9 pistons and a 42-44mm carb, only top end work, and it will yield the 100-105rwhp .... Ordered all of the parts last week .... by next weekend I will have one hell of an S1 ...
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No rice
I know you were just trying to do something nice for your sweetie, but be prepared man. You may have just demoted yourself to #2 in the household.
May not be long until all you'll be seeing of her is pigtails disappearing around the corner.
The bright side is, she'll almost always come back grinning, and in a really good mood. At least so far, mine has always come back.
Congratulations to the new addition!!!
Rotzaruck!!!!!
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tattoo, Talk to Wes Orloff. You might be amazed as to his setup. The man is very wise to the bikes and even Steve know's that.
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not saying this is the absolute best combo .. but the numbers for just a top end swap are damn impressive - and IMHO it is the best bang for the buck .. no case boring, no machining, no cam swaps .. no nothing .. the only thing that won't be bolt on is drilling and tapping the heads for the carb mount.

I started out wanting to do a big bore kit, but after talking to everyone in the know .. including Jason Bower with his race setup S1 - If I'm not mistaken it's pretty similar to what Wes has .. this is the way to go - nobody can match the flow of the XB heads, and the lightning cams are plenty good ... this is still a very streetable, reliable setup that can still run on pump gas without issue .. this is just a small modification compared to what these others are doing - but they have race-bikes... I'm not a racer .. just wanted a bit more umpph than stock, and for the money - you can't beat it.

Sorry for the thread hi-jack No_rice - but tell your girlfriend's dad that for less than 1200 bucks he can have a monster of an S1 ....

(Message edited by tattoodnscrewd on May 14, 2007)
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"all these parts came off of a blast that was getting played around with at work. what do you mean by changing the timing cup. i know one of the problems they said they were having was getting it to run good through the whole range. they couldnt get it to have hardly anything off of idle and would have to fight it to get going, but once it hit a certain point it would scream. I know they fought the timing alot. "
Supposedly, the XB cams' timing cup notch is in a weird place, different from the Blasts and XL's. Supposedly a new timing cup has to be fabricated/modified. I do have a set of XB cams waiting to go into my street Blast, but havent had the time to see if its true. I do know who'll sell me a 'blank' timing cup though.
I am running a full XB top end (piston, head & cams) on our raceBlast (oxymoron-I know) and there isnt any problem getting it to run. The only difference is I used Screamin Eagle XL '04 cams, which is the same grind as the XBs, but the timing cup notch is in the right place.

PS If anybody else needs 'one more in the garage' I know someone who's selling a Blast for $1000 (or less?).Southern California.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so i checked, and my box of goodies contains a firebolt head, S/E ignition, the adjustable push rods are crane ones, it does have a piston, has a set of firebolt cams, and also has a set of the pro series blast cams.

(Message edited by no_rice on May 14, 2007)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No pipe?
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no, no pipe. i think it stayed with the bike. if it ever even had one. they never did mention that. but it will have to get one.

so erik, are you just using the stock push rods? i am kind of leary to try some of this stuff out because of the problems tuning it that they had.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NOPE it was that way when it died... duh out of gas!

...been there, done that...

rt
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll bet Erik is on to something with the timing cup. armed with that knowledge and
the help of badweb it should be a great winter project, if not earlier
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sell the pro-series cam, the other will work much better; use a Jardine exhaust, for the cam timing cup mod - this will help -
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/83121.html?1063717728
yes - you could still use the stock pushrods or the XB - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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