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Mxer83
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 09:59 pm: | 
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a v-rod ducati is what I am looking at????? |
Jeffnights
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 11:14 pm: |
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I would assume many of you would have taken a look by now, but those who havent should tread on over to 1130cc.com its the unofficial home of all V-rod powered bikes.
I wouldnt buy this particular application, seeing as how you can get that dry weight and about 170HP on the dyno on a street rod(mine) for a lot less than that. |
Liquorwhere
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 09:12 am: |
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JScott...I think you are mistaken on your assertions....this is why, under the title heading of that article is reads as follows:
Roehr Motorcycles Introduces American Superbike - the V-roehr 1130
By Roehr Motorcycles Press
Then it reads as follows:
With looks that are an amalgam of 999 and R1, the V-roehr 1130 superbike from Roehr Motorcycles is claims to be "a new generation of American motorcycle". The thing is after a market jaded but the Hyosung powered Fischer MRX 650, the Roehr sounds true, powered by the Harley-Davidson* Revolution* engine which currently resides in the V-Rod series of bikes. Finally a bike that dares to be all that Buell could be, namely liquid cooled, smooth and relatively powerful.
Then it reads as follows: -- Press Release Follows --
Powered by the Harley-Davidson* Revolution* engine, the V-roehr combines modern state-of-the-art
etc..etc...
So IMHO this was a release written in it's entirety:
By Roehr Motorcycles Press
From start to finish, and therefore I stand on my earlier post. |
Jscott
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:04 am: |
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Liquor, I stand by my assertions, as they are correct. It is a shame however that editorial comments made by some online motorcycle "news" sites in addition to a press release can confuse some readers as to the intent of the press release. Re-read the "official" release taken from reputable sites such as RoadRacingWorld as well Roehr's own website. Again, I have never read Walter Roehrich say anything disparaging towards Buell. |
Leftcoastal
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:46 am: |
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Just for your info - press releases are rarely written by parties other than those who are producing or representing the product being reported on.
Typically, press releases are written by the company, person, group, etc. with the product or service, and distributed to various media operations such as magazines, news agencies, internet sites, etc. Then they are printed at the discretion of that publishing agency. Often magazines will solicit for press releases from manufacturers and product developers to print in their publications to help generate interest by the readers (= more copies sold and subscriptions paid) and as a way to get more paid ads sold to those with the products.
With the exception of the 'kneeslider' article, which has a short commentary by their writer, all of the linked articles I read seem to be reprinted press releases by the Roehr people.
"Don't shoot the messenger!" as 'they' say!
It's usually really east to sort out the difference between articles and press releases, even if there is no reference to the copy being a press release - If the product is being touted as the ultimate answer to the worlds problems, will end world hunger and make the product owner a god among sheep, it's a press release. If the product looks pretty cool, but is heavy, under-powered or costs triple what it's possibly worth, it's not a press release!
Sad, but true! |
Pushrodpete
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 11:41 am: |
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...so by that logic, something refering to a bike as "relatively powerful" would NOT be written by Roehr.
Nevertheless, let's get back to bashing a Harley-powered sportbike cuz it might be bashing a Harley-powered sportbike, or something like that.... |
Sparky
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:03 pm: |
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What galls me is the disrespect towards Buell as evident with the lack of copyright annotation on Buell's name but is shown on Harley-Davidson and Revolution. |
Jayvee
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:04 pm: |
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For reference, here's a bike from 16 years ago, notice any similarity?:
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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:32 pm: |
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>>>>I have never read Walter Roehrich say anything disparaging towards Buell.
If the guy has an iota of class I'd expect to see him retract or distance himself from the "all a Buell . . " comment.
It was factually inaccurate as well as simply unkind.
Paints a picture of a mindset that has as much class as a turd floating in a punch bowl.
Court |
Jscott
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:44 pm: |
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"If the guy has an iota of class I'd expect to see him retract or distance himself from the "all a Buell . . " comment."
That's the thing Court, those aren't his words. Those are additional comments made by OneWheelDrive.net. Walter Roehrich shouldn't have to distance himself from independent "news" source comments. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:29 pm: |
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I've reread it and you are correct. My comments would apply to the person who penned the words, not Mr. Roehrich.
Thanks for making the clarification.
Court |
Pushrodpete
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:38 pm: |
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Man, is this group irony-deprived or what?
First, we dump on a guy who wants to (gasp) build Harley-engined sportbikes! What kinda friggin' idiot would do THAT????
Then we dismiss his perceived lack of class by making turd references.
Y'all crack me up... |
Jimidan
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:53 pm: |
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I re-read it too and see what you mean JScott. It sure looked like it was part of the company's ad at first. My bad.
Really, $40 large isn't bad these days for a custom built bike that actually was made to be ridden and not just looked at. Them chopper guys a getting that much for a custom Fat Boy, and much more for an original. It is a niche bike for those with big bank accounts, and I would bet Jay Leno will be one of the first to order one. IT is somewhat ironic that someone else built this bike besides the MoCo though. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:24 pm: |
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>>>Then we dismiss his perceived lack of class by making turd references.
You're right . . . that is funny.
Hey . . . it's the internet. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 12:23 am: |
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Personally, I don't look for a Revo-powered Buell anytime soon, at least not with the current generation of engine. Look at the VRSCAW - dry weight, 637...running order 670. Buell XB12? 395lb dry weight. Figure maybe 425-450 once you add 4 qts of oil and 4gal fuel? Hmm...270lbs is a BIG passenger to be hauling around on a Buell, but that's what you'd get if you stuck a revo motor in one. The hydroformed chassis of the VRSC is likely comparable to the Buell's, weight-wise. Both have aluminum swingarms. Both have similar size/weight front ends. V-rod drag racers use XB front wheel assemblies to lighten their race bikes (what's that tell you?). Really. A Revolution motor, fully filled with oils and coolant, probably weighs nearly as much as a *complete* XB. And, it's not torquey enough. Having spent a lot of seat time in both platforms, the VRSC is a heckuva bike...but a totally different animal. You have to spin it to make power. 4500 or so and it really starts to come alive and it'll whack you into the rev limiter at 9k (9200?...have to beat on one again to refresh my memory) over and over again. You have to keep the Rs up to get one really moving.
Don't get me wrong, I love the VRSC family (*especially* the VRSCR), and I appreciate the Revolution motor for what it is. But putting it in a Buell? Doubt it - again, at least in its current configuration and packaging. Ride a VRSC and an XB back to back. Same day, same roads, same style. The power differences will become obvious, as will the nearly-300-lb weight difference.
As for the Roehr? Decent looking bike. Similar in many ways (basic shaping, relatively crude integration of shapes and lines, etc) to the original Buells like the RSS. Nice overall, but the details don't seem to match from one area to another - it doesn't look like it's "one piece" as much as some bits from one source and some bits from another...much like the original Buells were. I'm curious (and I'll have to read) how it actually *performs*. The press release seems to be more of a tech-tooter than a road test. But it better be one helluva performer given that price tag! |
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