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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I started it up and it did not idle good so I turned it up a bit and it was ok. After about 10 miles it sounded different. When you give it throttle, it sputters. When you hold it steady, it doesn't. Help this is my only transportation.
Ken
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your plugs too it sounds like it is runnin on one cylinder.
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys I'll give it a try, I have no service manual yet but I can handle it. Spidey whats the best way 2 check the plugs? take 1 out plug it to the wire & start it up? They are fairly new. Jim, not having a service manual, which is the primary jet? Whats the best way to clean? Carb cleaner?
Ken
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

funny how this happened exactly when it rolled over to 5000 miles.
Ken
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just take out the plugs and look at them. I can tell by sound if one of them is fouled it is hard to describe. But if you pull the plug it will be very dark almost black.
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Jim_m
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the primary jet will be the smaller brass "bolt" when you remove the bowl (it' susually off set to the center in my experience).

carb cleaner may work, but I had a stubborn jet that needed it's holes poked out with wire. Do not force anything in as it will damage the holes.

as it takes some work to do this (not a lot, but it's more involved than what Spidey's suggesting) I would go Spidey's route first.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had that happen when I first got the S1. Turned out to be contaminated fuel - water in the gas.

After I drained the tank, carb float bowl and refilled with high grade gasoline it seemed to be OK.

By then of course - I had the carb re-jetted and other thing done as well.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What does it do if you wack the throttle wide open and try to run it up to 70 mph in 2nd gear?
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

when it was acting up, it would cut out and try to stall. I checked the plugs and they are ok, and when I started it back up, it was fine. must have been trash or water, I will pull the carb this weekend and clean it. Thanks everyone for the help.
Ken
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Blake
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the kickstand safety switch. Or... if it happens again, try pulling in the clutch. If it runs fine then, you've probably found the trouble (kickstand safety switch).
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those damn dirty kickstand switches. I think Blake is right about this one. Your symptoms mirrored what happened to my X1 when the switch went bad. I just pulled the plug, cut the wires & made a jumper out of em. No problems since then. Well nothing sidestand related.
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99buellx1
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a similar problem with my X1, and it turned out to be a loose spark plug. Tightened it down good, and then it ran fine.

But if its running fine now it just sounds like something was loose, its amazing how things can rattle loose on a "paint mixer"

Craig
Buell Cycle Center
800-342-7539 Ext. 39
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Jim_m
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did we lose a couple of posts here?

I could of sworn there were at least three posts prior to Blasterd's at 12:34 on Friday.
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Admin
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some posts were accidentally deleted, yes. Very observant. Was hoping no one would notice. Damn you! :D
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Blasterd
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't remember posting anything prior to 12:34.
I did start the thread.......
Ken
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Jim_m
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm anal like that
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This bites, its doing it again.....gets good and warm and then it cuts out. I've tried everything, any other suggestions?
Ken
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kickstand safety switch. If Dyna and I agree on something you can pretty much take it to the bank. <IMG SRC="> Seriously though. Have you investigated/exhausted the suggestions above? I went through the same thing with a kickstand safety switch once. It would only act up in the rain or when it got hot from proximity to the muffler.

edited by blake on May 31, 2003
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kickstand safety switch. If Dyna and I agree on something you can pretty much take it to the bank.

I better save this post, doesnt happen very often.:D
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THUD

That's it....hell's frozen over. I'm selling all my motorcycles and am going to start collecting Barbie Dolls?

Court

P.S. - does this obviate the steak Blake owes Greg?
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But Court, we still dont know 100% for certain that the 1200 XB is a sure thing...or do we now??:D
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First, define good and warm...
Blake, if it was the side stand switch, wouldn't it kill all ignition?

Someone said a pilot jet... if that was it, wouldn't it take out both cylinders? How would the carb discriminate and supply fuel to just one jug?

Where the front plug wire exits the coil. Remove the plug wire from the coil and see if the boot is rubbed through where it runs next to the frame.
Also look where the rear plug wire rests on the rear mount bolt for the center engine mount. Wire rubbed through?
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Blake
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anony,
When my kickstand safety switch began to fail it would intermittently cut out causing the bike to shake and buck.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same deal with mine. It would run great for 2-3 blocks, then start bucking & wanting to stall. Then it would act ok for 1 mile then run like shit again.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My sidestand switch also had the same symptoms when it began to die.I'd be riding along and it would suddenly start bucking and misfiring. It's a common problem. I don't know why Buell uses such a crappy switch in the first place.
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crappy = cheap. Switches are very simple mechanisms, even when protected properly they are prone to failure. The sidestand switch on a Buell is probably one of the most beat up switches and endures the hardest jolts when actuated (come on, how many of you REALLY guide the sidestand gently up into it's niche? I didn't think so...LOL). As for the terminals and connection point, grease them up using a dielectric and/or cover them with a boot, they'll last a lot longer.

Now if they'd just fix the flimsy instrument clusters on Blasts...-=growls=-

Bryan
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Jim_m
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anon...

As far as I can tell, Spidey suggested it was dropping a jug, not Ken.

Ken, have you tried to bypass the kickstand switch to see if that is the problem?

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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plugs were ok and side switch was ok, It doesn't sputter unless you twist the throttle hard. Drive it easy & it runs right(who wants to drive it easy?).
Ken
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Jim_m
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm gonna get hit here , but have you taken your carb apart yet?

Now it sounds like your main jet is skunked...I keep thinking carb issue when you post .

Your main will be the big brass "bolt" in the center (if you're looking at the carb upside down with the bowl off)...well it should be. I've never torn apart a Buell carb, though I don't think they differ all that much (it's a Keihn, right?).
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a shot in the dark here, but could it be a torn diaphram for the carb slide?

I though for sure the kickstand switch would be the problem.
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Dart
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have you checked to see if your battery is still pushing full volts/amps. I had a similar problem when my battery went bad internally after my 2000 M2 had only 3000 miles on it. Anew battery fixed it.
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Blasterd
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alright everyone, I have exhausted all options so far, plugs are fine, carb is cleaned, plug wires ok & no rub damage, side-stand safety switch ok, battery is new (but I checked it anyway). It only does it when you twist the throttle hard, and now I am noticing a raw gassy smell (no gas leaks). I do appreciate all the help, any other guesses?
Ken
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Accelerator pump?
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Jim_m
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Double check you gas lines. Do you know if the fuel vent got recalled on your bike?
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That rubber hose that vents the tank runs down under the tank and back along the frame with lots of opportunity to get pinched off under various loads. Might also be worth checking out.
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Jim_m
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ken, did this ever get sorted out?
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thought - intake leak? - if it was a mild crack? My Blast acted like that - changed the boot - and was at a 100% - no problem since.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Blasterd
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope. Still working on it, when time permits........
Ken
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S320002
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ignition Coil???
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