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Blake
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 04:05 pm: | 
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"Is that kinda like your older brother waving his hand in your face and acting like he is going to poke your eyes out to make you flinch and saying "I'm not touching you.I'm not touching you"?
Yeah, he used to get the crap knocked outta him for that...."
 That's so true.
Charles (New12r),
The loud motorcycle might make noise for seconds. A barking dog typically goes on and on and on... |
Bads1
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:15 pm: |
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Blake the law reads your dog must be on a leash or contained in your yard by a no less then a 5 foot fence that is of sound condition and your must be up on all vaccinations also a license is law. Now if my neighbor or even your's has a growling dog that is barking at you he has obided by the law. There is no law here anways that says a dog cannot do this. Like I said I wouldn't like it either and that because I enjoy my yard and would hate to listen to it but if I didn't use my yard maybe I wouldn't care. Another thing that does work is if multiple neighbors complain or even sign a petition you may get a response. To me its a untrained dog. Mine bark and yes growl but not at my neighbors because they are used to seeing them but if its strange they will act according. |
Pammy
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:50 pm: |
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YOu know what's annoying to me....Dang Turtles...excuse me...Tortoise(s). Talk about loud. They come to the fence whenever I come outside and beg for food. They rattle the fence. And when they get frisky with one another...sheesh...no peace and quiet! |
Bads1
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:54 pm: |
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Pammy feed the Kringle they'll shut up. |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:08 pm: |
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Pammy - Are you beating up the boys again? |
Pammy
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:36 pm: |
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I got caught giving them broccoli already. Man, did I get scolded for that. I am resigned to carrots and zucchini.
In all seriousness, having a dog period, is a big liability and responsibility in this litigious world in which we live. If I had(or was caretaking for) a dog that showed any kind of aggression towards anyone, especially kids(who are little pack animals to a dog), I would have to take measures to be absolutely as safe as possible. That means safety for neighbors/visitors as well as my pet. I electrified and put security locks on my fence, when I had my Mastiff(s). I can't imagine how destroyed I would be if my animal were punished or put down because I was careless. And if someone else were hurt in the process, I couldn't live with that. |
Pammy
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:37 pm: |
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I hope they aren't both boys....hmmmm could be why they are so noisey when feeling amorous. |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 08:36 pm: |
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Wrong post Pammy 
Yeah, he used to get the crap knocked outta him for that.... |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 05:29 am: |
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Dana,
Wrong law. Your town has no ordinance covering "disturbing the peace"? It is not a dog specific law. It covers any disturbance deemed excessive. |
Bads1
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 08:01 am: |
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Sure does Blake. Is the dog barking just to bark all day?? Or is barking because it see's someone near it property??? Fine lines....and homeowners really learn to use them. |
New12r
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 08:58 am: |
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Blake, I know usually it is only for a few seconds but what about when the bike is warming up a 6:00am for 5 min before I ride out, or when all the guys come over in a pack of 10 and all are revving up the bikes and so on. At my house it can get pretty loud on any given day or night, specially when we get out the dirtbikes.
I guess my point is we should all be a little tolerant of our neighbors cuz none of US are exactly the quietest bunch.
And as far as getting attacked, until the dog is in my yard at full steam at me he is doing his job watching his land. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 09:04 am: |
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Agreed that the disturbance would need to be a prolonged duration, not all day, but more than five or ten nimutes or on a repeated/consistent basis (every time a neighbor is in his back yard). Short of someone actually trespassing, I don't believe it matters what instigates the dog barking if it is truly "disturbing the peace." Maybe one of our BadWeB LEOs can chime in. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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"until the dog is in my yard at full steam at me he is doing his job watching his land."
I strongly disagree. Allowing a dog to misbehave serves no one, least wise the dog. Dogs that bark aggresively and irrationally suffer from insecurity, usually the result of poor handling by their owners. |
Whodom
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 11:12 am: |
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Man, this is a long thread.
BTW, am I the only one that looks at this thread title (Beware of Dog Signs) and thinks: "Dog Signs? Why should I beware of those? Are 'dog signs' a problem?"
Yea, it's probably only me....  |
Bads1
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:01 pm: |
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Blake a dog that barks and growls is protecting his territory. Now if my dog didn't bark to let me know or even growl....yes they do when someone is near he wouldn't be doing what I expect. Now if I say stop they stop but if I'm not in the yard with them when it occurs they have no one to tell them what to do so they will do what they feel is best....warn/protect. As far as poor handler??? Yeah I also know some parents that haven't handled there children right either but there is no law saying how to raise your children like there is no law how to raise your dog. As long as it isn't physically hurting you I have no say so. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 04:22 pm: |
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In my view, a dog that barks incessantly or growls viciously at children is not protecting property, it is misbehaving. It's no different than if a man behaved in similar irrational fashion. Unjustified aggression should not be tolerated in any house pet.
A proper guard dog or police dog does not let loose unless a valid threat appears. Someone moving around in their back yard on the other side of the fence is not a valid threat for a house dog. Nor is someone walking to the door and ringing the doorbell. A dog that reacts with alarm and especially with hostility to those kinds of non-threats is misbehaving, most likely because the dog is insecure and is trying to do its best to act as the pack leader. Dogs as house pets must always be the lowest member of the family/pack.
I'm not sure you are giving canines credit for their ability to discern actual threat versus non-threat.
As far as law goes, except for the disturbing the peace issue, I agree, there are no laws prescribing how one must raise a dog.
Lucky are the doggies who find a home with folks who understand a bit about canine behavior/psychology.
Ever see The Dog Whisperer? I only thought I knew how to handle dogs. Amazing stuff. Very interesting and educational. Well worth the time.
FYI: I speak from personal experience. When I was twelve years old, I was viciously mauled by a full grown St. Bernard. That dog thought it was protecting its territory/pack. One second, it's owner was holding onto its chain assuring me that "Searg" had never bitten anyone. Next thing I knew, I was on the ground fighting for my life. I still have the scars. The poor dog was put down. |
Bads1
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 05:02 pm: |
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First you are comparing a man to a dog more can be excepted by a man don't compare the two Blake.
Second A police dog will infact bark or growl if someone is approaching it property. Blake I grew up for 15 years with a k9 cop and one retired and one on duty Shepard's. They'd let you have it without there handler around that is there home and family. If there handler is there that dog or dogs do as there told. Whats good for the handler is good for them. My dog is no different. My dogs do bark when someone come to the door and rings the door bell. They are alerting me of a presence. When the person is greeted at my door by me or anyone in the family he is fine and calm unless he senses a problem or something out of place.
Blake I also was charged by a St. Bernard. LOL I laugh now because I walked away and was just lucky but I was 13 years old coming home sick from school and cutting through someones yard that there dog came out and chased me around a big Oak Tree. I think we ran around that thing 3 or 4 times before face to face. Out of just being scared I kicked him in the head and caught him under the jaw. I was wearing those big Hiking boots that were popular in the early 80's.....Knocked the dog out cold in the snow. The owner came out then I thought I was really gonna get it but he asked if I was all right and I was. Gus was the dogs name. The owner said he had it coming for that and sent me on my way home. Although when I was 3 years old I was bitten in the face 3 times by two Dalmations at my Baby Sitter home. I do remember it but I was so young that it didn't traumatize me bad enough that I didn't like dogs. A bad dog is one that will not listen to its owner. That is a animal that still hasn't been taught where it belongs in the Pack (its family).My dogs are at the bottom of the pack...its a must. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 05:20 pm: |
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Dogs are usually more reasonable than people. Except for the butt sniffing thing. |
Bads1
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 05:24 pm: |
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Yeah I don't think it would look to acceptable if people went up to one another sniffing one anothers but to say hello or to get to know one another.LOL I agree though Blake isn't a dogs life the Bomb!!! |
