| Author | Message | ||
     Bomber |
All Humankind has been celebrating the winter solstice for longer than we can remember. Although our many and varied calendars have shifted over these thousands of years, most religions have a celebration near this celestial event, for how can you NOT cheer the return of the sun? Whether you’ve been fasting for a month, have just celebrated the festival of lights, take joy in the birth of a carpenter, or dance nekkid around an oak tree with your face painted blue, I wish you and those you hold dear a splendid holiday season. | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
How do I get in on that one about dancing nekkid around the oak with a blue face??????????? Seasons Greetings to all. | ||
| Kerryx1 |
Newfie, You dance nekkid around any tree in Newfoundland and it won't only be your face that'll be blue! Safe Holidays!!! 'Ole Baldie | ||
| Ferris |
well said, Bomber, thank you. Happy Hoolidays all!  FB | ||
| Timbo |
Hey Ferrous one, Is that Hoolidays, as in Hooligan-holidays? Timbo | ||
| Ferris |
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| Spiderman |
I got kicked out of Hooters for running around naked with a blue face. | ||
| Crazymike |
www.witchvox.com If it turns blue put yer pants back on.  | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
Run around the trees nekkid up here and there is the possibility of getting shot. Spidey, you spend a lot of time at HOOTERS, Damm wish we had a Hooters. | ||
| Spiderman |
LOL see even more reason to come down here And yes I spend A LOT of time there. Even have my own table. | ||
| Blake |
Bomber, Noticed this topic as I was cleaning up the Quick Board. Do you see Jesus as just a mere carpenter? That's surprising. I mean even if you don't believe that Jesus was God incarnate, he certainly was a LOT more than just a carpenter. Was Gandhi just an attorney? Just wondering what your beliefs are. Peace. Blake | ||
| Bomber |
Blake . . .nosir, I do NOT see Jesus as JUST a carpenter, not at all . . . . my wishes were intended to be sincere, and as nondinominational as possible . . . my intent was to wish everyone the joy of the season, no matter what their beliefs . . . seemed to me that one way I might be able to do that was to do so without necessarily spotlighting my own beliefs -- they are precious to me, but so are everyone else's to them, I'm thinkin so, did I answer your question, Blake, or have I, as is my wont from time to time, babbled incoherantly? (smilein) | ||
| Cjmblast |
nondinominational as possible . . . Good answer Bomber, and I knew that was your intent when I read it !! Scary that I know ya, huh ??!! CJM  | ||
| Bomber |
I'm a little scared, CJ . . . .you, however, should be horrorstruck (!) I generally don't discuss my spiritual beliefs in public (specially with folks I don't know), cuz, experience has told me that it is WAY to easy to start a firefight . . . email and boards are so easliy misunderstood, or misrepresented . . . . side's, like the bluesman sez, "ain';t nobody's business but my own." (still smilin) | ||
| Cjmblast |
I generally don't discuss my spiritual beliefs in public Me neither, it isn't smart !! Never on a public postboard !! CJM | ||
| Blake |
I agree, but I think we can be respectful to others without trivializing our own faith. I think it is important for Christians to offer witness, not in a Bible thumping in your face way, but just to sometimes inform those who know us of what our beliefs actually are. | ||
| Cjmblast |
I certainly don't always do right (okay, probably more than that!), and it may not be right but I only discuss my beliefs with someone in person who asks me becuase they want to know, I never debate with anyone about it, and never volunteer it unless ask. But like Bomber said, e-mail and boards would be an easy way to be mis-understood and you really don't know who your entire audience is !! Public posting, in my humble opinion, is for information sharing, fun and BS !!! That's why I try not to get into any of the heavy discussion threads here, not that I don't have my opinions !! CJM | ||
| Bomber |
Blake . . .we are entirely in agreement on many things, and darned close on this one . . . . . . as I said, I hope I answered your question as much as possible in this forum . . . it was certainly not my intent to trivialize anyone's beliefs . .. . . further conversation, for me, would be much better had in person, over a cup or mug . .. . and, as you wrote, peace | ||
| Blake |
When you moving to East Texas then? | ||
| Whatever |
I will 'behave' here I suppose, but Bomber needn't have his behind hopped onto for anything he said... UNLESS of course it is by me... Some of us do believe that nobody REALLY knows anything about everything except God her/his/itself. Just my two cents worth, because you know I am a pagan, socialist, curious mad woman... We love you Blake even if you are a BIG Republican... (correct me if I am wrong...) | ||
| Arbalest |
I have no doubt that Jesus AND Mohammad were good men, that lived as an example for their peers. It is the religions that have grown up around them that I take issue with. As far as I am concerned, one superstition is as valid as another. The Baptists get bent out of shape that the Wiccans are recognized by the military. All religions are just superstitions that try to explain the way of the world in a way that benefits the believer, to the exclusion of others. Too many people have died for what they did believe(early Christians, later Muslims), or did not believe (European Jews)to give any religion the right to claim that their's is the only path to Salvation. I do not deny the possibility of a Creator. I just don't think he gives a damn about the soft warm fuzzy things that occupy an obscure little planet, on the outskirts of a backwater galaxy, far from the center of the known universe. I'm sure he/she has more to do enforcing the laws of physics in the universe, than to worry about whether or not I covet my neighbors wife, or that the meat on my table is the flesh of a beast with cloven hooves. There. That ought to stir up a hornet's nest. | ||
| Bomber |
Blake . . . if I were to move to Tejas (from what little I've seen), it would likely be west, rather than east . . . .. always loved the Austin area . . . . . that said, the real answer is no time soon, likely . . . . . I know where most of the heat hides around here ;-} as for behind hopping, er, char . . . .oh, never mind | ||
| Road_Thing |
Bomber: The folks in El Paso might laugh at you for calling Austin "west"...according to Yahoo, it's 576 miles from Austin to El Paso!  r-t  | ||
| Nevco1 |
Yeah RT...Not to mention El Paso is the halfway point between LA and Houston. Damn, Texas sure is big!!! | ||
| Bomber |
damn, hoist on my own petard . . . . .. . ok, I'll just say Austin, then | ||
| Road_Thing |
Well, Bomber, relative geography aside, your choice of venue is impeccable--Austin (and the surrounding hill country) is truly a beautiful area! r-t | ||
| Blake |
The Austin area would be my first choice too. East Texas is a close 2nd. I love the lush vegetation and forests of East Texas. Picture Louisiana more so than Texas. Charlotte, I'm more republican than democrat, but I vote independent quite often too. I really wanted Clinton to do well. He totally let me down. Trent Lott is an idiot. GW has an unfortunate brain/speach impediment (nucular is NOT a word). I call 'em like I see 'em. Are you really an atheist? You believe that all this is one big accident of nature? Is that really plausible? If you ever get a chance, give C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity a read and let me know what you think. It blew me away. Such logic and clarity of thought are something I can only strive for. Maybe some day. Arbalest, As to Mohammed... He slaughtered a LOT of people, and incorporated violence as an integral part of his religious doctrine. I see him as more of a David than a Jesus. Actions speak louder than words. Over 600 years before Mohammed, what did Jesus do? I also hold much contempt for organized religion. I feel it is in some cases a corruption of the teachings of Jesus. Imagine Jesus living in the vatican surrounded by all that material wealth and political power... I don't think so. Imagine Jesus on TV bedecked with a fancy suit and jewely asking us to send him our money... I don't think so. Jesus was not out to organize or establish a religious institution. He was about teaching a philosophy and way of life that allow the human spirit to grow and thrive. However, the Christian religion offers far more than an explanation of how and why we are here. Give the C.S. Lewis book Mere Christianity a read and let me know what you think. Like I told Charlotte, it blew me away. It is not a preachy religious book. It is more a discussion by a man previously athiest who discovered the logic and truth offered by Christianity. Blake | ||
| Timbo |
I agree Blake, It's unfortunate when traditions and hierarchy take over. When power, influence and personal gain become more important than the message. Often times, that is why an unbelieving world finds it so unbelievable. Timbo | ||
| Whatever |
Blake, I am NOT an atheist at all, not even close... like Bomber said it is far too complex a subject to approach on the internet... I am more of an open minded spiritualist if you really would like to know the truth...Nature is the most viable Higher Power I have found yet... as anything man has 'invented' is inherently flawed although it can have its merits... it is never really quite what we expect it to be... organized religions have left me a little empty I should say... But if you get out in the middle of nowhere (aka Pelican Lake) on a clear night and you see the stars as they are... Infinite... it is quite a comforting thought (for me anyway) to KNOW how insignificant we are (man) compared to the greatness of the Universe... and if you extrapolate that thought a little farther... at least for me... I start to realize how great and infinitely infinite our Creator truly is... Hee hee hee. Did you get it ? I think I made sense... Bomber, What kind of ass hopping did you have in mind ? Isn't that your wife's job??? PS Bush needs to realize NUKULAR is not in the dictionary, anyone know where we can mail him a good Phone-et-ick dictionary ? Charlotte  | ||
| Bomber |
Char . . .damnbetcha it is . .. .. (grin) I agree about the vastness of our surroundings being both humbling and comforting at the same time . . . one of the reasons I've always loved riding . . . .you're out IN the vastness, as opposed to traveling through it in a box |
