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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez, How many badwebbers used to own a Norton????
I had a '74 commando that i clocked over 50K on, was one of the best bikes I ever owned. Seems like half of us have been there (must be the torque addiction)
me about 23 years ago!
THE bike
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Xb9
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to get those header pipes a glowin bright orange after a hard run - looked really cool at night! Ahhhhh, the memories........
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Ray_Maines
Posted on Thursday, October 03, 2002 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In 1966 I had a 650 Manxman, but I don't remember exactly what model year it was. It looked just like the 750cc Atlas but had smaller bore. It wasn't the sort of bike that you would want to ride very far or every day but I'd still like to have another one. That said, I'd trade six Nortons to get one 98 Buell S1W.
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Road_Thing
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ray, I only had to give one Norton for a '96 S1! (of course, there was some cash consideration as well...)

Xb9, great looking bike!

r-t
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, October 04, 2002 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interstate . . . . . I thought my Trumps and Beezas handled well unitl I road a buddies commando . . . . . .

most all old scooter pics lost in flood ;-{, which means I gotta make up for it by acquiring all the sccots I want to photograph now, doesn't it?
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Kcbill
Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2002 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

for $51,741.00 you get your very owe confederate. I guess they don,t plan on making very many. Humm, is this how Eric started out?
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Bykergeek
Posted on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"for $51,741.00 you get your very owe confederate."
WOW! Their price has almost doubled in the last 2 yrs... They used to be ~$24-27K
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Court
Posted on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Humm, is this how Erick started out?

ANSWER: No. He was constrained by reality and knew he had to make a "marketable" bike. Look for Confederate to be here about as long as Indian.

Court
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Ray_Maines
Posted on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Streetfighters, a pictorial summary:

From the Intermot show: Thanks to JoséQ

Is Bimota still in business? What kind of motor is in this thing?
Bimota Streetfighter

Oh Please say the body work is just an (very) early prototype:
KTM Duke V2 950

I don't know if it's reall a "Streetfighter" or not but it's pretty cool
Moto Guzzy #1

This is a Streetfighter for sure
Moto Guzzy #2

A Sachs 805 (whetever that is)
Sachs 805

Two pictures of the Yamaha Bulldog
Yamaha Bulldog #1
Yamaha Bulldog #2
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Jadow
Posted on Sunday, October 06, 2002 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like someones 4-valve S1 with aircleaners out both sides! You know the one!
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Bykergeek
Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That Bimota is based on a Yamaha YZF-1000 motor. Here's a review on an earlier model.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/bimoyb11.htm
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Kcbill
Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

court, I guess what I mean to say about how Eric started is this. Topeka HD had a 91 buell they never sold. Denny said in 91 it sold for 17,000. That seemed high to me. I am in no way dising Eric. Just a price comparison for the time. It looks like a buell on steroids.
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Y2k01x1
Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"for $51,741.00 you get your very own confederate."

Do you actually get anything additional for that $51,741.00? Upgrades? Premium goodies? Gold filled frame?

Or is it the same basic configuration you would have paid $24-27K for a couple of years ago?

Local economy? Out of control costs? Artistic license?

Puzzler. I'm gonna go take a look...

Bob
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Vr1203
Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I posted a photo of this bike down in the "Pictures" section, but maybe up here with the Norts. would be more appropriate
new Vincent in San Diego?
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Jim_M
Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

more on the "new" Vincents from www.ridereport.com

Vincent Motors, founded in 1998 by Bernard Li in San Diego, California plans to re-introduce the Vincent motorcycle name. The new Vincents, which are targeted at "the experienced, affluent motorcyclist," will feature a tubular monocoque chassis with a single rear shock assembly, carbon-fiber bodywork and will be powered by Honda’s 130-hp RC-51 high-performance V-twin. Four models are planned: Black Shadow, Black Lightning S, Black Lightning ST and Black Eagle. Pricing has not been set, nor has an official on-sale date, although it is expected to be 2004. For more information, watch for more news in Rider magazine. Vincent Motors USA, 2251 San Diego Ave., Suite A220, San Diego, CA 92110; (619) 692-0802; www.vincentmotors.com.

The RC 51 engine thing bothers me for some reason...
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Vr1203
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim M,
I know what you're saying,a Honda ? No Way!!! This is a photo of a Vincent engined motorcycle.What are they trying to pull?
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Nevco1
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 03:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vr1203...

Relax and wait for the into. Face it, "Bernard Li" is neither a British or Japanese name, at least not with this spelling. LOL
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Jim_M
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, that bothers me too...

that photo clearly shows the old 52 degree bastard (IIRC), and looks nothing like the RC51 engine...

But I am now aware of the company, and look forward to what they will offer (though I won't be able to afford any of them)...

All the photos on the site also display the air cooled mill...

Curious
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out the MCN UK website. i don't know if it's there or not, but todays copy of MCN has pics of the RC51 engined 'Vinny'.

Rocket
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Ray_Maines
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bike theves, the Aprilia Mille-R, a firm rear end... but no RC 51. However, "The Penthouse View" more than make up for whatever "Vincent" stuff I might have missed.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, maybe if we check later in the week it'll be there.

Anyway, we shouldn't miss this little gem in this topic............

1,Bimota Mantra

Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, anyone got a decent pic of a Bimota Mantra ????

Rocket
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Pilot
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$19,500.00 $AUS.Always fancied a Bimota,but didn't have the readies? Well now's your chance.Australian Motorcycle Importers (AMI) and its Moto Guzzi and benelli dealers are now taking orders for the last of Bimota YB11s -brand new and for just $19,500.00Aus! The bikes,sourced from the stockpile of machines assembled prior to Bimota's 2000 demise,are still in the crate,with a $1000.00 deposit setting the wheels in motion for your new Bimota to arrive eight weeks later. The Yb11 runs a Yamaha YZF1000 Thunderace engine,Paoli suspension and Brembo brakes,and retailed at up to$33,500.00 during its '96-'00 production run. The bikes are imported one at a time,subject to demand,and AMI is hoping to offer a 12 month'parts only'warranty.Other Bimota models possibly in the bargain bin include the Mantra,SB6 and BB1.For more information contact AMI,Tel (03) 96901117 in Australia.
Sourced from sept 22 2002 Australian Motorcycle News.With all the talk about the Bimota I thought this info should be shared.
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Jim_M
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,
How's the Vin look?
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Imonabuss
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

There is no such thing as a decent picture of a Bimota Mantra!!!
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim it looks like a modern Vincent. Pretty cool really, and I'm sure it will generate a lot of interest if it does make production. Bernard Li is a total Vincent nut, so I guess he did his homework.


There is no such thing as a decent picture of a Bimota Mantra!!!

Well I've never ridden one, sat on one yes, but not ridden, but let me quote you from a recent road test of one.....

Featuring running gear from Ducati's mid-1990's 900SS model, with Sacha Lakic's bizarre chassis and bodywork wrapped around it, the Mantra was an exercise in designer chic.The surprising thing was how good this weird-looking motorcycle was to actually ride on the road. It went , braked and handled very well and weighed about the same as the average sports 600.

The Mantra was intended to be more at home around town and on country roads than on any racetrack. But, with an extruded oval-section alloy frame, which took an incredible 12 man-hours to weld together, and a collection of cycle parts, the Mantra went some way towards maintaining Bimota's reputation for superior handling. In fact, the frame, swing arm, Paioli suspension and Brembo brakes are all from Bimota's DB4. There's little doubt that Bimota's first aim, to produce a futuristic roadster with a high-tech image and strong identity , was achieved. The bike is instantly recognisable , from its headlamp surround, inspired by an old-style racing Ferrari's grille, to its twin pairs of exhaust on either side.


Sounds cool to me. At least it's not a Dragstar, hehe !!!

Rocket
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Ray_Maines
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bimota Mantra
THE BIMOTA "MANTRA"

The Bimota Mantra is the first Bimota model addressed to a market segment different from that of the supersports motorcycles. The Bimota "Mantra" can immediately be distinguished for its innovative and very personal design, which has been realised in co-operation with the French designer Sacha Lakic. The sinuous and futuristic shape together with the original chassis make the Bimota Mantra a motorcycle that, if well analysed, shows no particular common points with any other product in motorcycling field. The Bimota Mantra is the mean to try a new motorcycling experience. It has multitude of different facets and offers unique sensations. It is easy to handle with extraordinary stability and powerful braking. In 1997 Bimota has restyled the bike, in the front and rear part. The new version has new handlebars, new wind-shield, new head-lamp cover and different rear mudguard. Two special kits, with all the modifications (one for the front and one for the rear) are available.
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Sportyeric
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had to go back and look at all the previous pics posted here and, having done so, I pronounce the Mantra the ugliest of the lot, although the other Bimota, from Intermot, is a close second. Interesting that the writeup of the Mantra recognizes a class of bike that's street-worthy but not so suitable for the track.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's the later version of the Mantra in the above pic, thanks Ray, and in my opinion not as pretty as the first. Like most unusual bikes though, you really need to see them for real rather than in a pic. Mantra, better in the flesh !

I bet the Mantra would win any traffic light drag race though. The other person would still be at the lights trying to pick their jaw off the floor whilst the Mantra would be long gone :)

Hey Ross I'm not sure of the Aus exchange rate , but over here they're advertising new YB11's with Paioli susp' for £6499, or with Ohlins £7199. The YB11 streetfighter that Ray posted a pic of, £6199 or £6899 with Ohlins. The Mantra, strangely Bimota's 4th best selling model, is £5999.

If anyone's interested, and I've not had time to look myself yet, most of this information is from a new UK mag, Italianbike, and they're at Italianbike Magazine

Mmm. might pop there myself now !

Rocket
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Redstripe
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pilot,

Just for Your information:

Since the demise of Bimota due to the V-due 500 two-stroke debacle, prices for second-hand Bims have dropped dramatically.
Second-hand prices for non-Ducati Bimotas have never been great in comparison to the retailprice, really.

A nice secondhand Bimota YB-11 can be had in Holland for as little as 8.000 US$.
Mostly, due to the nature of the make, the mileage is very moderate on these bikes. Imagine wrecking the carbonfibre fairing on one of these bikes, that'll cost You! -if to be found-

BTW. site still works; www.bimota.it

Jilles.
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