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Kenb
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody use these ? I just put a set on my S1 and man they are grabby. Although I'm sure anything would be after the fork oil soaked ones I replaced. How they on the rotors ?
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Grndskpr
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody use these ? I just put a set on my S1 and man they are grabby. Although I'm sure anything would be after the fork oil soaked ones I replaced. How they on the rotors ?

They were installed on My Harley, worked great, not to bad on rotors, lasted all of 3500 miles, keep an eye on them they dont last long, at least not with the heavy bikes, you milage may vary
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12r
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I asked the ever-helpful Jon at EBC about the green derivative (GFA345HH) a while back and I was told they are 'for race applications'. I dunno if an S1 uses the same pads as an XB but my FA345HH's work just fine compared to the std Nissins - more bite, more feel, less dust.
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had EBC Green pads on my S2 because of the stock cast iron rotor. They were supposed to be gentler on the rotor. However, compared with my S3 with stock pads, the Greens didn't give near enough braking power. They did however manage to powder the entire left side of the bike in brake dust : )

With the stainless rotors, I think you can do better than EBC Green. Ferrodo comes to mind. Al at American Sport Bike can steer you in the right direction.

Henrik
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These killed a stainless rotor in no time for me. They wore unevenly, too. They almost seemed to work better when wet than dry.

The only plus is that the brake dust was easier to clean.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We sell 'em, but I can't recommend them. Word out there is that they have a little bit of rubber in the friction compound, and that this can cause heat checking of the disc with hard usage. It supposedly isn't a problem with "regular" usage, but I have no first hand experience with them.

But there are better pads that work better that don't exhibit these problems. Ferodo CP911 compound pads or Lyndalls work better (see here. The OEM pads really aren't half bad, word is that they use Ferodo CP905 compound (the previous generation race compound). I don't have 100% verification of that, but it's believable. But I like the Lyndalls so much, I'm not likely to even give them a try.

The HH compound is sintered. I'm not even sure you can get the sintered compound for the PM caliper used on the S1 thru 97. You can use sintereds on the 98+ or 2000+ stainless disc, but don't use them on the original pre-98 S1 disc. Personally, I use good non-sintered pads like Lyndalls because they provide excellent stopping power and improved feel. Sintereds might give more bite, but they are a bit digital in nature, and tend to leave uneven deposition layers on the rotor.

The Lyndalls and CP911 ferodo's are considered "race" pads, but they are excellent on the street on Buells due to the high heat saturation of the single rotor. But I've been told to stay away from the race compound EBC sintereds on the street.

As alway, YMMV. One persons ideal pad can suck to someone else. Feel is very subjective.

Al
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Kenb
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmm, seems like I did not choose wisely.
The feel on them is very light. Two fingers and I can stand the bike up, hopefully I won't toast a rotor.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thumbs down from me on the EBC greens. Wore unevenly and quickly. That was on an iron rotor and on the track though. Will let you know how the Lyndal pads do real soon. Should be great. Stock works fine too for me.
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My old factory pads (PM caliper) all had CP901 painted on 'em.
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