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Rebel_1
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone have experience with running a radar detector? My S3 insists on cruising at 4000 rpm which equals 15 to 20 mph faster than the speed limit here in the state of misery.
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Skulley
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya, most of em I have seen go off at any microwave
intervention, you cannot pass a store with an auto open featured door. I have a bel 620i SWB/Lazer+ Ill sell you for $75 pay pal bucks. Too many false signals in the city of Houston, but the lazer is always right. I wanna get a Phantom Jammer.
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skulley: read this and this and this before you lay out your money.
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Dark_Ninja
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jammer = useless

ALL of them.

Rebel, the BEST are the Valentines.
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Milehi
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got a Passport 8500. Yeah, it true that they'll false in town need automatic door sensors but if you drive in town mostly you can set it to City mode and it'll cut down on false signals. I chose the Escort over the Valentine because of price and size/weight. My Escort saved my butt this last summer on a trip to L.A. when the CHP setup multiple speed traps. In Expert mode the 8500 indicated that there were 3 traps. Kinda humorous watching cagers (with detectors) getting pulled over at the second trap 'cuz they thought the signal they were picking up was the first trap. Granted the V1 has the directional arrows. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if the detector shows 3 signals and you've passed one trap that there are more up ahead. The V1/Passport 8500/BEL 980 are all good detectors. It all comes down to which features/strengths you want and how much you want to pay.
Ray K.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, January 30, 2002 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a Valentine 1 recently. After time and practice, you 'recognise' how to interprit the information. For example, in town you learn what to expect along your familiar routes so it's the unexpected that you look for.

I can't speak for other makes but the only downside of the Valentine 1 I have is it is cleary designed for use in a left hand drive vehicle ! Other than that, it should be a better defence against the 'enemy' than your eyes, which ninety nine times out of a hundred I bet it is.

Rocket in England
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Skulley
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aron, Gezzz you saved me 3-1/2 bills. I owe you a beer or two.. Thanks, I still want a jammer, too bad it don't exist.
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Aaron
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, you're more than welcome.
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sweetdaddydelicious
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Escort passport 8500 here. Best radar detector made. Saved my @ss many times. www.radartest.com for test results showing it blows the V1 away. The V1 never shuts up, too many false alarms. Go to www.legalspeeding.com for motorcycle mounts and a wireless transmitter that lights a LED in your helmet (so you can see it cause you ain't gonna hear it beeping) when the detector goes off. They are set up for the V1 or the Passport.
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Seeeu911
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.legalspeeding.com
what does the product look like ? what do you get for $159.00 ?
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ask them.
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Seeeu911
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no reply. anyone actually have anything from them or seen their product ?
A PO BOX only no contact or fax # ...hmmm
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hope it isn't vaporware. Lots of sales pitch and no pics does make one wonder. Might be a very good product, but like you say hard to know until you see it either live or linked.
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

on the subject of Jammers. I have seen systems that actually Jam police radar. they were not store bought but rather cobled together creations of Navy electronics technicians. They worked and quite well but they weren't small nor would they have been cheap to produce. Te ones I saw were made from junk type spare that were being thrown out but things like waveguides aren't easy to come by. Anything that says it can detect a laser I have a problem with. Unlike a radar which is broadband a laser is a very narrow band transmission not a lot of spill over that can be detected much less jammed. Jamming lasers is a major black project for the US government. I can't imagine that any public company is gonna make something that wouldn't get federalized pretty fast. If your detector finds a laser, chances are you have just been caught.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xgec,
OPSEC,
bye.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These guys were at the Intl Motorcycle Show here in Mpls.
He had a couple of prototypes to show.
Kind of a neat idea. I wish I kept the flyers he had, I could have posted them.
The unit that I remember worked with an existing detector. You plugged in a transmitter to your detector's output jack. There was a receiver that you stuffed in the lining of your helmet. The helmet piece was very small. I seem to remember it being blue tooth but I could be wrong. It was self activating. It looked for a "carrier" signal from the transmitter and went into a sleep mode after you shut the bike off. No on off switch.
The helmet part had a bright led that you let poke out of the liner at the edge of your vision. It was bright enough that you would notice it easily even in bright sunlight. On the example they had the led was on the left side of the helmet at eye level just barely poking from between the helmet shell and liner. It fit in a fold of the liner material and you couldn't see it from the front unless you knew it was there.

While I was at the booth, 3 or 4 people put down deposits for the first available units. I don't remember what the price was though...sorry.

Kind of a neat idea really. No wires, you can hide the detector and not worry about sound levels or seeing a lite on the detector.

Brad
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez,
I could have saved a ton of typing.
Most of what I just wrote was on their website. Guess I should have checked out the site first.

Sorry about that!

Brad
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Seeeu911
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brad, I like the idea because I would get one.
Did it actually work ? still only a was this a concept/prototype they were trolling for R&D money ? can you actually buy one and walk away with it ?

"trust..but verify" Ronald Reagan.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anon oh well I trimmed it. Suffice it to say the guys I work with know radars.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No problem, just trying to watch your six. :) You never know who lurks in alleys and on web sites.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Donn,
It was a working prototype.
He said something about waiting on the production cases or something like that.
Even as a prototype it didn't look too bad.
You could not walk away with one. I don't recall what he said the delivery date was.
Damn I wish I had kept the info sheet, all that stuff was on there.

Brad
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Seeeu911
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybee I'll get lucky and production will be running, their web site says they are at Daytona this year.
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Seeeu911
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.legalspeeding.com

anyone see this product at any of the shows or in real life yet ?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm, no pictures but they say "The receiver is small in order to easily nestle between the helmet pads. Dimensions are approximately 2.0L x 1.28W x .5H (figures in inches)."

That's a big chunk of hard plastic to stick between your skull and the helmet. No thanks. Put a small bright strobe light on the dash instead.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Quote:

That's a big chunk of hard plastic to stick between your skull and the helmet. No thanks. Put a small bright strobe light on the dash instead.




Put NOTHING in your helmet but your head.


I make an exception for my sunglasses, fully aware that in the event the helmet "goes to work" that I shall emulate a raccoon for some period of time as a result. CAVEAT: Helmet speakers are in some of my helmets but THINK when putting them in.

Blake you are one fart smeller......
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Vr1203
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The BMW site for GS's had thread on this outfit, I e-mailed them and recieved no response. It seems like a they're marketing a great idea but without any hardware.Too bad, it would have been great.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RADAR DETECTOR LUST
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