| Author | Message | ||
     Spiderman |
Any one see it yet BWAHAHAHAHA Greg I want full report with pictures LOL | ||
| Daves |
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| Naughtynurse |
???? | ||
| Blackbelt |
ok i am lost | ||
| Mikej |
The perfect mystery.  | ||
| Ebear |
Ya talkin' 'bout the Revo-powered Buell????  | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Its there! I have had the information confirmed! (by my brothers', sisters', friends', dogs', cousin. So it's got to be true. | ||
| Spiderman |
Well whats the 411 homie?? | ||
| Daves |
I rode it two weeks ago. | ||
| Spiderman |
man you guys are such teases  | ||
| 99buellx1 |
They let you ride it!? I HAVE one, but I can't ride it because the insurance company dosn't know what it is to insure. Sucks.  | ||
| Xlcr |
Yes, where is that mystery Buell at Daytona??? And I'm not talking about the one that Canadian guy was talking about, I'm talking about the one, or ones, that were supposed to appear to defend Buell's honor in the Daytona 200. Like the other one, it has completely failed to appear. So that Canadian talked out of turn, and the talk was he might get fired for speaking up. I think firing is too good for those cheap-••• Harley and Buell execs who's decisions resulted in this state of affairs. I want their balls!!! Come to think of it, they probably don't have any. (Message edited by xlcr on March 10, 2005) | ||
| Rokoneer |
}TOP SECRET LINK TO THE NEW BUELL MOTOR http://www.weberprecision.com/ Be sure to click on the link to see and HEAR it run... | ||
| Reepicheep |
Enough already XLCR, if you are ready to challenge the manhood of people our there actually trading paint day in and day out, be willing to get your own ••• out there, either sponsoring or running. You could probably be competitive for under $50k. You can scrape up that much, even if it means you go into debt or sell some stuff. Or does it only make sense when it's somebody elses money? I don't want Buell to be any spoiled rich kid pissing away money on unearned, poorly conceived, all dollars and no sense racing efforts. I want them to succeed racing the way they succeeded building streetbikes. With passion, blood, sweat, tears, determination, brillance, and excellence. I hoped it would be this year at Daytona. It isn't. I'm looking forward to the next race they are in. | ||
| Ezblast |
Reepicheep - Concur | ||
| Xlcr |
The only manhood I am challenging is that of the sad, pathetic Harley board members that are too cheap to get behind Buell. It's all very well and fine to say Buell should earn its own way, but as it's now 100% Harley owned, Buells are really just Harley models, which is fine with me. What isn't fine is that such a huge opportunity to promote the brand with real achievements instead of Harley/Buell's absolutely terrible ad copy (marketing geniuses my aching butt!), was thrown away because Buell is being financially compartmentalized and expected to run with no priming of the pump. The net effect is to place them in a marketing ghetto, a poor second-class relative to the main Harley effort. Let me tell you something. The Japanese probably don't make any profit on their sport bike sales at all if you consider their low asking prices and count the huge racing budgets they promote them with. I'm not saying Harley should spend that much, but it wouldn't take anything at all like MotoGP money to see three or four factory backed Buells at Daytona. The money you are talking about wouldn't even run the American Honda team for a week. And even if all it did was to shut up all of those critics, including those at Motorcyclist and Sport Bike, that claimed the XB would never make a racer, it would be well worth it. As it is now, Harley has proved their point for them. What a wonderful outcome. | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
Those same critics are now loving the bike for what it is... Read this months Cycle World.  | ||
| Crusty |
The mystery Buell is #34 Michael Barnes. He qualified 5th for the 200 on a Buell. It was on Speed this afternoon. Miguel is on the pole, Zemke is second. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'm glad people have passion for Buells, and passion to race, and passion to win. Lets build on that though, and walk towards the light. I'm serious about the race effort though. Go race a $5000 beater XB and prove Motorcyclist wrong yourself. (and good luck, the writers at Motorcyclist seem insufferable idiots to me anyway, even their fonts grate me when I try to read it... it's the only motorcycle publication I have *ever* thrown away half way through, and that includes some pretty insipid chopper rags I have been stuck with in a pinch). | ||
| Grndskpr |
Sorry to burst your bubble but i belive Barnes is on a yamaha this year From AMA pro racing site: 5 34 Michael F Barnes Boca Raton, FL Yamaha YZF-R6 Venemotos / Yamaha / Prieto Racing / Pirelli / Shoei / GMD CompuTrack / Championson Line I think speed might be living in last year sorry Crusty(actually sorry to everyone whos hopes were raised) R | ||
| Spike |
Xlcr, Surely you have not forgotten the VR1000 already? Is that what you want from Buell? Mike | ||
| M2me |
I agree with Xlcr on this. I have worked in advertising and PR for many years and most companies would kill for that article in Cycle World. But now that there won't be any Buells competing in the Daytona 200 that article becomes a major PR blunder for Buell/Harley-Davidson. The Company should have worked with any Formula Xtreme teams to guarantee that a Buell would be on the grid. I don't care if they had to strap Willie G himself onto a Buell. With the absence of any Buells in the 200 the Cycle World article has lost it's postiveness. What could have been great PR for Buell has been turned into a potential PR disaster! It is senseless for a company with deep pockets like Harley-Davidson to allow that to happen! Sorry folks, but that's the truth! | ||
| Xlcr |
The VR1000 story is the same as we are seeing again here. Harley went racing, and was too cheap to spend enough to keep the VR current. In the first year or two it was in the hunt, but after than it got progressively slower because, even though it was obvious that the Japanese were massively outspending them, they just kept dribbling out the money in bits. Enough to keep the team alive for seven years, enough to hire some name riders, but not enough to give them any real chance to win. That was the worst of both worlds, and incredibly stupid on the part of Harley management. You wouldn't believe how many times Japanese fans have beat me over the head with that, never thought a Buell fan would be doing the same. I've said elsewhere that Harley should never have gone road racing in the first place. After all, Harley doesn't sell sport bikes, but Buell does. They should have called the VR a Buell in the first place, and they should have built and sold a street version right from the start, and finally, they should have spent enough to win before they got out. In fact, what happened this year reminds me strongly of what happened the year they hired 'Mr. Daytona' Scott Russell to race the VR. Everyone had such high expectations at Daytona. So what happened? He got in a drunken fight in a bar the night before and was too beat up make the grid. Once again, pathetic. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Rokoneer, That is the COOLEST thing I've ever seen! That little motor sounds like a top fuel engine! What an incredible piece of machining and engineering. The guy designed it himself! Wow!!!  | ||
| Reepicheep |
M2Me, If we are being honest, then the article did most of the good it was going to do long before the racers grid this weekend, it established the XB as a serious racing platform. A good showing in the Daytona 200 would have carried a lot of momentem and stirred up a lot of great feelings among people with a lot of history in the sport of motorcycle racing, no doubt. But a decent showing through the rest of the season (stay on the leader lap most of the time, visit the podium once or twice) will also do tons to carry the momentum of that article. XLCR, I was way young then, but I think the VR1000 was an attempt to throw money at a marginal situation, and just showed how to throw away money. I think that is what Buell is trying not to repeat. (Message edited by reepicheep on March 10, 2005) | ||
| Chris_mackay |
http://www.new-water-cooled-buell.com | ||
| Crusty |
From AMA pro racing site: 5 34 Michael F Barnes Boca Raton, FL Yamaha YZF-R6 Venemotos / Yamaha / Prieto Racing / Pirelli / Shoei / GMD CompuTrack / Championson Line I think speed might be living in last year sorry Crusty(actually sorry to everyone whos hopes were raised) For a while, I was thinking he was on Higbee's bike. Oh well. | ||
| Mutt2jeff |
Wow, that tiny engine kicks •••! I would love to have the equipment and know how to build one of those! I think i would stick it on a pocket bike or something, I wonder how much HP it makes.  | ||
| Jima4media |
Crusty, You were right, the Speed TV graphics showed that Barnes was on a Buell, and Brian Drebber said he was, but he was really on a Yamaha R6. There was a time when Harley-Davidson was all about racing. In fact no manufacturer has won the Daytona 200 more times than H-D. That will change this year when Duhamel or Zemke wins on a Honda CBR600RR. Ducati has never won the Daytona 200, and they won't again this year. There are 2 Ducati 749's qualified in Formula Xtreme, but there are 78 4-bangers racing against them. Jim | ||
| Court |
>>>>Surely you have not forgotten the VR1000 already? Who can forget a 47 minute tire change? Call the VR whatever you will. The technology, regardless of level, is of little value if you are not ready. Neither money nor a non-stop taunting mouth can replace preparation. No amount of schoolyard taunting, without the skill to back it up, had any attraction or "PR" value. It's the same reason mature 12 year olds are not allowed to drive. To everything, there is a time. Court |
