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S1w222
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2018 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’ve got an X1 swingarm I’ve been meaning to fit for a while. Gonna get to it this summer and was thinking of upgrading the brakes aswell. I’ve also seen some S1’s with XB wheels. Is this an easy/ straight swap? Are the XB brakes the logical upgrade? Price, better braking power etc..? Any other options?

Thanks
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2018 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just switched to an X1 swingarm this winter. I was able to leave my brakes as is, but the metal part of my brake line is looking pretty sad, so I do have a new normal brake hose and a new banjo bolt with the pressure switch built in to get rid of the inline switch that came on that S1s.

The rear wheel is an easy swap, 2 spacers you can buy, and I believe you need a new bracket for the rear brake. I'm not sure if there's an easy option to swap the front wheel into the s1 forks, most guys I've seen do that swap do the XB forks and triples with a new stem pressed in. I guess there's no reason you couldn't also get some spacers for the axle and make a brake adapter to fit the XB brake on the tuber fork. Can't comment on how much better the brakes are. I used to have an XB, I don't really remember brakes being much better than the ones on my S1, but I've been through a couple bikes since then so it's hard to say without riding them back to back. The one thing I do usually hear working well as an upgrade is switching to a radial MC.
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Red93stang
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2018 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It’s not hard at all. Gather all your swap parts together first and it can be done in a weekend.

www.engineeredvelocity.com
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2018 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice looking S1, Red!
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Red93stang
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2018 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Kc! I have always admired your stuff as well.
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Phelan
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2018 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About 9 years ago I modified my stock S2 front end to fit an XB wheel and brake. It was not worth the effort IMO; the XB fork and axle swap was way easier and cleaner. The problem you will run into when doing such a conversion on the S1W, as I had on my S2, is the XB setup has no provisions for a Speedo drive unit. So to run the XB setup, you will have to get an aftermarket speedometer that uses it's own sensor (usually a magnet glued to the swingarm), GPS speedometer, or modify the trans casing of your cases to fit an HD speed sensor and run the later electronic Buell speedometer (the boss is on the cases, but not milled, drilled, and tapped in the case of 95-98 tubers).
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2018 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"or modify the trans casing of your cases to fit an HD speed sensor and run the later electronic Buell speedometer (the boss is on the cases, but not milled, drilled, and tapped in the case of 95-98 tubers)."

Fitting the sensor seems fairly reasonable. I wonder how detailed the wiring is to actually make it all work.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2018 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would never modify an earlier crankcase to accept a newer speed sensor. I would much rather stick a tiny magnet on a wheel and go aftermarket.
Much less invasive and also you woudn't have to worry about gearing changes.
When those hall-effect speed sensors were first introduced, they were a dumpster fire of failure.
They are finally good now. I think it took about a decade for the factory to get them right.
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