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Barrick09
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2018 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello Everyone!

If anyone saw my post a couple weeks ago you know I was having some clutch/kicking problems with my with my bike. Well, I reached to Rekluse Clutches to see about their product for buells. I searched the forum and seen some interesting way back in 2009-2011 but nothing since.

Rekluse was very interested in developing their clutch system for Buell's. I'm working with their R&D manager to help with product mapping and new product development. They even sent me their new EXP 3.0 to install in my 99 X1.

If you are not familiar with Rekluse it pretty much turns your bike into semi-auto and allows for some really cool benefits.


rekluse clutch


FEATURES AND BENEFITS
– Take off and stop in gear without using clutch lever
– Centrifugally activated technology automatically prevents engine stalls
– Cruise through traffic like you’re on the open road – You don’t have to hold the clutch in at a red lights or in heavy traffic anymore
– Effortless low speed maneuverability
– Cooler operating temperatures extend clutch pack life
– Standard clutch lever function with full override
– Shifting transmission remains unchanged (clutch lever use is recommended for shifting)
– No modification to stock components

So I'm looking for some Buell experts/historians who can answer some questions as we progress down the road.

We are starting with Tubers since they already have a clutch developed for sportsters, but the goal is to encompass all Buell models.

Is anyone interested in Rekluse clutches for buell models?
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This would be cool I am interested
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Blks1l
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had heard about them regarding dirt bikes that when installed the engine braking doesn't work as well, I am assuming it is slipping?
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Barrick09
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blks1l: That is correct when engine breaking the clutch disengages.

Which some might see as a downside but personal I clutch on long descents. My bike backfires a lot under engine breaking.

One benefit some don't see is when stopped at a light. If someone one comes upon you it allows you to get out of there without the potential of stalling or needing to hold the clutch in.
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Barrick09
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to mention bumper to bumper traffic using the clutch every 5 seconds would be a thing of the past. I live in Pittsburgh and traffic is bad. This alone is a huge benefit for me.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would be a smart move for them as the clutches are the same as sportsters. common as hell.
The market is potentially huge.
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Barrick09
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Natexlh1000: That is the start. Our first goal is to identify all Buell models that can utilize the Sportster clutch they already offer.

Is there a comprehensive list of all Buell that use the 1200 Sportster engine?

From there they will focus on non-Harley Buell models like the buell Ulysses.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think my bike would be a perfect second test unit!!
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Barrick09
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1owner: All I did was email them and ask if it would fit my X1. They said they were not sure and told me just to buy 1 and if it doesn't work I can send it back. But it's a lot of work for it to just not work. So they decided to send me one for free just so they can confirm it themselves.

I'm sure this will be the case with the future buell models.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, May 18, 2018 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2002 and under Buells use the exact same clutch as 91-2003 Sportsters so it should work fine but I have found that those type of clutches always slip to some degree which I did not like.
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Barrick09
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buelliedon: This is true the clutch is designed to slip. I would not recommend it for racing applications although dirt bike racers love this clutch because it prevents stalling on slow speed turns.

I think there are a lot of safety benefits to this clutch which out weight the negative. I would recommend if given the opporitntity everyone at least try a bike with one.

I think if you do a lot of adventure riding on a Buell Ulysses or gravel style riding then it would be very beneficial as it acts like a mechanical traction control.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much does the kit cost?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2018 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I could see it be a good thing on an adventure type bike like you said.
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Gmaple
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2018 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice to have when the clutch cable breaks!
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Barrick09
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2018 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harleyelf: the Kit is $799 a bit pricey I know, but the benefits are worth it.

I am hoping to get my contact to give us a Promo Code for a discount.

Just took it for a ride and Low-speed cornering is excellent. On a corner where I would almost need to clutch in first I was able to just cruise the turn and roll on the throttle with no fear it will stall or kick.

Gmaple: you bring up a good point. If the clutch cable break, it wouldn't matter. You can shift all gears and take off without the clutch if you want.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do they want another test subject?
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Barrick09
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blks1l:L I just found out how the engine braking works. If you are decending it will engine brakes as long as you start the engine brake while in gear. If you pull in the clutch while engine braking and let it back out it will not continue to engine brake.

Hope that makes sense.

Harleyelf: Possibly for non-harley Buell models 2003+

Buelliedan: I rode the bike yesterday and did several clutch up and power wheelies and didnt notice any slippage at all. I think if properly adjusted you would never notice the clutch working.
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Shoggin
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2018 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is there to 'adjust' on it besides the stock cable? Something different?
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Barrick09
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2018 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoggin: The easiest way to explain it that I can come up with is this.

Imagine there are 2 stages to the clutch. Stage 1 is operated by the lever like a regular clutch. Stage 2 is the centrifugal clutch.

You adjust stage 1 at the lever and you adjust staged 2 inside the derby cover. It is possible to adjust the clutch in a way so that when you pull the lever stage 1 disengages, however, if you rev the engine stage 2 will engage EVEN WITH THE CLUTCH IN!

Vise versa you can adjust the clutch in the opposite position. so that the bike works like a regular clutch but the centrifugal pretty much never engages.

You are adjusting to find the balance between these 2 stages. balancing the adjustment at the lever and the at the pressure plates.

Hope that helps.
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