| Author | Message | ||
     Milar |
I love my S1. (see pic) I'd always keep the parts to put it back to stock. But I'm working on the idea of bringing it up to date with some changes. Along the lines of my buddies restomod or protouring '55 Chevy. Not a hot rod. A better riding S1. Should I decide to do it, I'd welcome some ideas on what you might change. Motor: FI has spoiled me. Which FI Sportster motors would fit? Maybe an X1 motor? Transmission: 6 speed? Suspension: rear shock? Misc: Speedhut or Koso gauges? Wheels? Just thinking. Thanks for your thoughts. Mike  | ||
| Harleyelf |
Twin motorsports shock from the Netherlands, Thunderstorm heads, a 1250 kit from NHRS, and the FI including manta tank with fuel pump from a 99 - 04 S3. | ||
| Akbuell |
Another shock option would be Penske. Might (big if) find a Works somewhere. Re the FI- Given the stuff that needs to be changed, you might consider getting hold of Steveford in the Bikes For Sale section and buy his nicely sorted '02 X-1W. After getting a fuel pump, wiring harness, throttle body and injectors, sensors, FI ECM, on and on . . . Nothing wrong with 2 Buells in the stable. And you could always put some stickers on that say S 1 on it and make believe. Would also keep me from buying another Buell.  Dave | ||
| Milar |
>you might consider getting hold of >Steveford in the Bikes For Sale section Wouldn't that be fun. I got this bike from Steve. A good guy. A lot of bikes going between Arizona and N. Carolina. M | ||
| Kmbuell |
Mike, As the high end restoration guys say, it's only original once. I'd pick up a second S1 and modify away. Keep an eye on what Purpony is doing with the one he just picked up. I'd agree that a complete FI setup for an S3 or X1 is the way to go for injection. Easy, all factory parts. I'll be tough to put an XB in with out major changes to the frame. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Keep us posted! Kevin | ||
| Gmaple |
Im going the other way on my s1 wl. Stock. Just sourced the original cf license plate/fender and the original heimholtz airbox. | ||
| Hootowl |
Like this?  | ||
| S1owner |
Just my 2 cents Motogadget gauge Xb front end and wheels Skip the fi Mc motoworx or engineered velocity shifters Custom foam seat on original pan Led headlight | ||
| Court |
That Red S1 looks like early production. I had one of the test bikes (B-031) that look pretty much . . . except for some of the changes made after testing/prior to production that I used as a dirt bike. I used to take it off road up near Lake Perry . . . . I'd leave Grantville . . . run down Highway 24 . . . sneak onto my secret little off road track and then home . . . covered in mud. Old timers will recall the talks of how the bike mysteriously came into my hands when it was errantly erased from a white board used by the overseers from Milwaukee to keep close track of bikes. It was a gift that Wisconsin manufactures plates are good for 2 years . . . fun. I still harbor some guilt . . . but, not much. At least it wasn't as malicious of "borrowing" a bike from the HD Styling offices at Juneau . . . rolling it into shipping . . . and shipping it to Portland while they were at lunch. Not much guilt at all . . . . | ||
| Hootowl |
It’s number 49. | ||
| Court |
The front rotor is a give away . . . I have some of the other prototypes we tried hanging around here in the barn . . . | ||
| Ratbuell |
I can't use the breadbox (6'4" with 34" inseam) because it tries to occupy the spot ny knee needs...but I did use all Buell bits on my S1W - race intake, race header, race muffler, and after a long hunt I managed to find an original hugger with the plate mount.  I'm back to the stock Euro seat, but it does have a Penske shock and a pair of 1125CR mirrors as the only non-original parts (well...and a jet kit...). Love me a stock S1, especially that rear hugger. Every time I see one I have to make myself NOT buy it, because I already have one on my bike! But it's such a gorgeous piece of carbon fiber, and to be a FACTORY part?? Just...sexy. For the OP - I'd go with a Penske or Works shock to get the exposed-spring look back as well as some great performance. Jet the engine correctly. Maybe go thunderstorm - heads, pistons, cams. I did TS top end on my S2, with X1 cams and an S1W race ignition, and love it. If you want it "really" original, bead blast the heads bare before install (they'll come as highlighted black). Find either an original race exhaust system, or stick a factory muffler on there. The factory pipe is actually a good performer - typical Buell - it just isn't "loud". Of course, if you go Thunderstorm, you'll want to change to a 2.5" exhaust anyway, and the stock S1W setup looks sharp - polished header, stainless muffler, it's a great look. I wouldn't mess with EFI until you've ridden a properly-jetted TS motor first. You won't need it, and honestly DDFI-I was pretty snarky and rough. I remember a buddy's X1 at Daytona '02, when Erik HIMSELF was tinkering with it to try and make it behave while we were out on the XB release demo ride. Keep the carb, tune it right, and you'll never have to mess with it. I jetted mine when I installed the exhaust back in '10 and haven't TOUCHED it since. Fires up first shot, runs like a dream. Love the nuke blue frame and wheels - DEFINITELY keep those. (Message edited by ratbuell on February 25, 2018) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Whoops. Looks like the OP already has an S1W, yes? Black heads, manta tank...my bad. For some reason I thought it was a standard S1 with a Manta tank on it. Or...is it an S1 with updated heads AND jugs? Looks like the cylinders are black-highlighted as well...? What's already been done to that bike? Stock S1 was all-silver; Stock S1W is all silver, but with black heads... | ||
| Williamscottrobertson |
Rat, doesn’t the original rear fender use a brace to thenswinger? I’ve thought about putting mine on (it came with the bike) but was afraid it would crack or vibrate badly without the brace. | ||
| Gmaple |
Yes a brace is needed with the original fender. I like the looks of that fender most owners cut them up. Original hooligan look from Buell. | ||
| 1313 |
doesn’t the original rear fender use a brace to thenswinger? On the HDI (International) bikes, that had to support the weight of a huge number plate and holder, yes. Normal Domestic bikes didn't need, or have, anything like that. That Red S1 looks like early production. The '96 style airbox is a dead giveaway as well... | ||
| Steveford |
Putting an X1 motor in that would be a project and a half. You'd need to modify the header for the O2 sensor as the injected bikes all have the header going inside of the frame rail. If I remember correctly, I put a 98 S1W header on that bike but then the canister kind of defeated the purpose of the 2.5" output! Made it real tractable, though. You'd need the whole wiring harness and sensors, everything else should fit okay once you figure out where the relocate the crap. XB forks and rims would improve the handling, there's a couple of different aftermarket shocks out there. I had a Works Performance on my first X1W and that was pretty good if a bit stiff. To keep the stock rims look for S2 forks. In all honesty, as time goes by these things are getting pretty scarce on the ground so I'd just go with a different bike. The X1W is more of a sit in it model with faster handling, the S3 is more like sit on top of it with similar handling like my old S1 in the pic. What I liked best about that particular S1 was it was just a fun bike to ride. It wasn't going to light up the pavement or anything but it just felt right, very similar to my old 1970s Triumph Bonneville. Ratbuell, That's a stock S1 motor, just a Forcewinder and different exhaust system, I'm pretty sure I rejetted the carbs. My 02 X1W with the race kit runs perfectly from idle to red line. Which I could say the same for the Useless which has started back firing which means the cheap race canister is falling apart. (Message edited by SteveFord on February 25, 2018) (Message edited by SteveFord on February 25, 2018) | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
If one of mine were in this shape ,i probably would keep it as is and enjoy it as much as possible! But the first thing i would change are the wheels ,never liked the three spoked rims. So some xb wheels in the same nuclear blue and xb fork legs would do it! | ||
| Ratbuell |
You'll never match the nuke blue, it's a bear to get right. Better off is the set of PM polished wheels that's in the classifieds somewhere... If the Works shock was too stiff, you didn't adjust it correctly. I have a triple-adjust Works on my S2 and it's bee-yoo-ti-ful. From solo blasts to loaded, wide-bag, camping/touring trips at the WVBR it's a great shock...once you get it dialed in. And don't forget to drop the preload back down when you empty your bags, or your sag will be all wrong and the steering will be all wonky and twitchy. DAMHIK. No rear brace in my bike's hugger. Been on there since '10, no issues, even back when MD had a stupid, "larger" license plate than any of the other states. I do have eight tag holes in the thing now...but with a plate on it, you can't tell. | ||
| Steveford |
If the Works shock was too stiff, you didn't adjust it correctly Or they sent it with a spring which was too heavy for me despite my telling them that I only weighed 160 pounds. | ||
| Court |
Cheesburgers | ||
| Williamscottrobertson |
Thanks for the clarification Brankin! | ||
| Hootowl |
Nah. Chicken quesadillas. I have first hand experience in the matter. | ||
| Upthemaiden |
The bike is gorgeous. I hope mine looks close to that someday. It looks like you've already got a bit of nice parts on there. If it was me... Smaller digital gauges, ditch the fly screen, 1-1/8 handlebars. New front brake rotor, adjustable clutch/brake levers, some of the CNC banke style shifter/rear brake levers people have been making, and polish the swingarm just a little. I wouldn't go nuts, just make it match the engine a little better. If you really want something that looks nice but isn't as noticeable, some customs oil lines always stand out to me. Also, have you cut down the right side engine cover yet? | ||
| Phelan |
I still have plans some day to put second or 3rd gen DDFI on a tuber. I hate carburetors. I prefer changing jets with my laptop. | ||
| Lasbuell |
Milar what mirrors are you running on your S1? I have my stock Mickey Mouse mirrors on my 2000 X1 and do not like them. | ||
| Mike_lee |
The only thing "I'd" do to that work of art is suspension. respring the front for my weight and pick up and AST for the rear. Maybe update some internal parts. nothing visible. Beautiful bike | ||
| Madmacks |
I've been working on this bike for a while but have been reluctant to post pictures or details. Many on here will, I'm sure, not be too impressed with my choices for this bike but as someone said earlier "they're only original once". Nothing has been done to this bike that can't be undone and put back to stock. I'm a drag racer and have built this bike for some fun at the track. I did post in the Drag Racing section but have made some changes since then. There are still a few things left to make the bike ready for the track. Resto-mod, Pro-street, bracket racer, call it what you wish. It's a Fuel injected S1. Actually a S3 with an S1 body on it. And for all the purest's, you'll notice another Buell in the background. A S1 I rescued from being sent off to chopper land. It's my next project and I will likely restore that one close to original with a few improvements.   | ||
| Ratbuell |
I like the gold (yellow? hard to tell) tank letter surrounds...you should trade me your all-black corbin for my corbin with yellow piping...  | ||
| Upthemaiden |
I agree, I like the gold around the letters. I think in general people don't like seeing tubers modified much(mostly because the bikes being scrapped for choppers makes it a sore subject), but I've personally always loved seeing the things people do with them if they're making the bike better, and especially if it's done for any kind of racing purposes. Interested to see what you did with the rear suspension, it looks like you still have the original oil tank under there. Also curious what kind of pegs those are, LSL? |
