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Ducley
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know if the Deltran Lithium-Iron is any better than a Shorai? I'm seeing a Shorai LFX27L3-BS12 on amazon.com for $211 free shipping. Best value I've seen. Of course there's a open box "used" for $179 if you're willing to take your chances.
Anyone have a reason not to buy it? I know back in 2011-12 there were issues but they just upped their warranty October 2016 with a press release and this posting on their website.

"Shorai Inc. offers a Limited Five-Year Warranty for LFX batteries, for defects in material and/or workmanship, pertaining to sales originating and delivered within the United States.
Please Note: Warranty became 5-year prorated on October 5 2016, Shorai has extended the warranty period to apply to all previous sales"
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12mpghwy
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a battery tender brand lithium battery that I got from a local shop for around $180 when I needed a battery on a Saturday. Its listed as having a 360 CCA rating.

I am not happy with it at all. Starting the bike causes the voltage to dip at the battery to the 11-12 volt range. I live in san diego, where I rarely start the bike below 60 degrees. Clearly this battery doesn't have enough capacity despite being the one recommended.

Its dimensions are also slightly different from stock making not fit right.

I am looking into getting a battery from this company: http://www.lithiummoto.com

Mostly because the X1 battery is so prominent and I like the clear case.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When did batteries get so expensive?! I haven't had to buy one in a long time, but I don't think I've ever paid over $80 or so for one. Am I missing something good with these fancy batteries?
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Oopezoo
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Am I missing something good with these fancy batteries?




Nope, your not missing a damn thing. The previous owner of my 1200GS put some lightweight lithium battery in it not long before I bought it. It was the biggest POS battery I've ever had in anything.

Leave it off the tender for more than 2 weeks....wont start
Leave it parked in cold weather for a few hours.....won't start
Voltage dipped far enough that it was about a 50/50 shot if my HID headlight would fire the ballast, requiring a shutdown and restart

All that, and it was uber expensive. screw that. I yanked it out and put in a good old Odyssey AGM battery and haven't thought about the battery since. I still have an old PC680 from my parted out 1100RT that I converted into a portable jumper pack. It has to be almost 10 years old at this point and still starts everything I connect it to.

I put the lightweight LiIon POS into my lawn tractor and it didn't last a whole season in that before I finally recycled it.
I don't want to think about batteries.....I want them to work when I need it. For the S1, I just bought the cheapest name brand AGM battery I could find at the time. Think it came from Batteries plus and hasn't let me down.

(Message edited by OoPEZoO on April 11, 2017)
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Robertl
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The lithium batteries are still pretty new, with a lot of Chinese companies making them so you often don't know what you are really getting.

People have very mixed results, although all the EBRs came stock with them (some were defective).

My M2 doesn't charge well and yet my AGM battery from Autozone/Advance keeps on going, year after year. I think the Buell has the Autozone and old Ninja had the Advance battery. If you sign up for their rewards program ahead of time, they often send 10-20% coupons via email. Typical price is $130-150 depending on the capacity. Riding mower was $90.

Unless you really need to save a few pounds, stick with what you know won't leave you stranded, AGM.

ps: all batteries are getting more expensive, as are most things.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interstate lasts better than Autozone or Walmart. More shock resistant.
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have always used Harley AGM type seem to last a long time 5 year, but have had one last 10 years on a kick start only Harley Shovel.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most recently, my Hurdley-Durdley AGM batteries have been lasting less than a year.
I think my local dealer got a batch of weaklings or something.
Recently, I got a battery from batteriesunlimited in Milbury, ma and it seems to be holding up pretty good.
Price was about the same and I think it was made by the same folks that made the H-D ones.
Came with nicer brass spacers for the terminals too. kinda classy.
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Waveguides
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can catch an AGM at Battery Mart for approx $90 w/free shipping if you time it right. I'm getting 3-5 yrs on their Big Crank product. Ride Safe...
Mark
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Blks1l
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have good luck with Deka brand batteries. Been using them in everything I own for the last 5-6 years.
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am using an EartX lithium. Been great so far and good customer service
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Williamscottrobertson
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The H-D OEM batteries now have horrible reviews on their own parts website. I think they have changed suppliers from the good old days when OEM batteries were awesome.

http://mstore.harley-davidson.com/store/h-d-agm-or iginal-equipment-battery-pa-12-6598997c--1#feature sTab

I always buy the heavy duty black Duracell batteries from Batteries Plus. They are about $120, stores all over the US so you can pick it up/exchange same day, two year warranty. Excellent service from those, plenty of CCA and the correct size/posts.
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Mjohns19
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have a few friends who use the lithiums and i plan to get one when my current battery dies. I have been told that with them, you get what you pay for. if you buy a cheap one then you will have trouble. most of the li batteries also state that in the cold it may take a few tries to get your bike to turn over. i guess using it will heat itself up and then it will turn over your motor.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I going with the Duracell from batteries plus next time I need one. (Which is now...for three bikes : ( )
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had good luck with the Duracell batteries!!
In my Buell I run an earthx lithium and I highley recommend them as they have a great product with excellent customer service!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One would think that HD would recognize and remedy this obvious vendor issue. I'm sure Duracell would be happy to OEM HD batteries.
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89rs1200
Posted on Friday, July 21, 2017 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

* Have been using a Ballistic Performance EVO2 battery for over two years now. Works well on the S3 & RS1200.
* To get better airflow on my RS1200, I replaced the battery. About $200.00 from Dennis Kirk. This battery is tiny. I mean really tiny. Allows for better air flow off the engine and out the back.

** Notes;
* Yes, they recommend a 16 cell for Buells, but it works just fine for me.
* In cold weather, this type of battery may need to warm itself up by running the lights for a few seconds to get full cranking amps. So don't get upset if the first crank just produces a ratchet sound from the starter. Wait 20 seconds with the ignition on and try again.
* Use a Lithium-Ion battery tender/charger. Many old lead acid chargers may damage Lithium-Ion batteries by doing a decalcification cycle and they also may not charge to the higher 14V level.
* They come with a 3 YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY!
* Made by hand in the USA.
* Weighs just an minuscule 3.20 lbs.
* No, I don not work for them, just very happy with their product.

EVO2 Lightweight Lithium-Ion 12 Cell Battery
Part # 2010166 Manufacturer Part #: 103-012
https://www.denniskirk.com/ballistic-performance/e vo2-lightweight-lithium-ion-12-cell-battery-103-01 2.p2010166.prd/2010166.sku
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Bigsarge
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2017 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't had to replace my battery yet, but I did accidentally ground out the + post while removing my exhaust. That was not a fun time and I don't recommend it to anyone, however I say all that to say this. You can rebuild the overall shape of the lead post using some electrical solder and a file. I removed the battery, put the bolt into the terminal, then just added a bunch of solder using my soldering iron. Then I removed the bolt and squared the blobby looking terminal with a coarse file then finished it with a smooth one. Looks just like the day I got it. And it is square again and makes a much better connection this way. So if you pull a bonehead move like I did, don't tell anyone and just re-shape the terminal and save the battery. On the sad side, all that sparking and heat caused by my ratchet on the + post did smoke the speed sensor. No getting around replacing that guy. Anyway, hope this helps someone out of a jam. Happy riding!

Big Sarge
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2017 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That solder can suddenly turn back into a liquid if the cable gets shorted to ground for any reason.

Is that a silencer/supressor in your profile pic? Need a license for it?
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Bigsarge
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2017 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, full auto with a suppressor. Unfortunately not mine. Belongs to a friend of mine, and he has the license for both. It was just a great day at the range.
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X1tuber
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2017 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I'm not mistaken mine is an interstate. 90$. I keep a tender on it most times, also they make a small voltmeter that plugs into the tender lead so you can see either battery static voltage or alternator output at the push of a button. Mine is usually resting at 12.5 or better, charging at 14. I can honestly say that I can't remember the last time I had either a Yuasa or Interstate go bad on me. 2cents
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