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Egagnon086
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey all,

I just got a 01' X1, traded my KLR for it. It rides like a beast. I love it. Does anyone know the proper hose routing for the Oil tank? the guy I got it from routed them up above the belt and it its very close to the exhaust pipe. Makes me worry.


My buell x1
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try to snap some pics tonight when I get home.
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Purpony
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

congrats and welcome.

Post a pic of how the oil lines are currently
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great looking bike! You definitely got the better end of that trade. Love the blue frame.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heres a pic of the hoses.


hoses
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Bd3
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice find and good to have another Georgia Bueller
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See how slack your belt is? Keep it that way. Tight belts ruin bearings.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Compressor hose ,nice!

Looks like the battery strap is missing!?
and there is a piece of allen bit stuck into a bolt of the sideplate.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that hose rated for engine temperatures??
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Egagnon086
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a yes on the allen bit broken off, didn't notice that before. Nice find. Belt does feel kinda slack, so its suppose to be that way?
Yes battery is loose in the tray, i'll have to rememdy that.
The hoses say they are rated for oil and fuel, looked up the part number on the side, says its good to 320 deg. don't think oil gets that hot. But it is very close the exhaust. that's my bigger concern at the moment.

Thanks for all the observation so far. I have another pic from the otherside, so you guys can give it a once over.
Otherside
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like Egagnon086 should start a thread I've been tempted to start, which is "How to weld on a vehicle without frying it's electronics".

With a welder and a welding blanket, he could tack a sacrifical bolt onto that existing bolt with the broken allen wrench in it, and spin it right out, and replace it with a new one. 15 minute job.

So, anyone, how do you weld to a modern vehicle without lobotimizing it's electronics? Is it even possible to do it safely?

It wasn't a problem on my 78 KZ-400 that I welded all sorts of stuff on.... God bless points systems.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll probably drill that broken tip out, now that I know its there.

I've welded on a late 90's bmw before, disconnect the battery and the ECU. Then ground the frame well.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think you would have to weld on the allen to get the stub out.
I would wager some gentle taps would unwedge it from the inside of the screw.
Once it's loose, a little magnetism may be all it takes.

The fuell filter is supposed to be mounted to that odd bracket between the jugs on the left side.

I'll try to get some glamor shots tonight of that as well.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the real world data point Egagnon.
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Steveford
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The oil lines go beneath the motor.
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Upthemaiden
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's cool about the oil lines. I've never seen transparent ones before. They'd go perfect on an XB with the transparent bodywork!
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K12pilot
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would worry also...
buy some trans cooling line & do it the right way. it is a pita but do it!

PS I have a couple parts laying around for that bike lmk

Good luck w her & welcome to the asylum!!
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another issue you may have is...

Front pulley retention plate has moved, been moved. I would check the final drive splines and the splines on the pulley. By the way, the pulley splines are sacrificial, so they go before the splines on the output shaft.

Buy a new retention plate, large nut and the screws to hold it all together. Several bucks will get all this. Another thing, the large nut has Loctite (white) on it from the factory. Make sure you follow the field service manual to the "t" regarding torque and degree setting of retention plate/large nut. VERY IMPORTANT!

Congrats on the your "new" X1 Lightning and welcome to BadWeb.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know the part numbers for those? Can I just get them at a Harley dealer?
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651lance
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are the same as any sportster.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Service manual shows exact routing of the hoses. You could use an s1 manual also pretty sure they are the same
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Williamscottrobertson
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a jims meganut. Don Casto recommends going to the meganut and abandoning the 50 cent harley one. I don't have the pulley holding tool though, so I haven't attempted to put it on in fear of damaging drive gears. I may check with a local shop and see if someone has a holding tool.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone have pics of these oil lines under the bike, service manual just says route them under there from what I can tell.

As for the nut and retainer washer. I guess I will go to the local Harley dealer and pick those up before I attempt to remove it. Anyone know what size that is?

I did find some more things to work on, rear brake line is leaking where the fitting meets the hose on the caliper end. Also found a broken what looks like ground. See pics of my findings


Ground wire??


Also missing this bolt any idea what is suppose to go here?

missing bolt
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Egagnon086
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also I'm missing the bolt that holds on the side stand switch? anyone know what size length?

Also does this pic of the drive pulley indicate the splines are toast or maybe just bad torque on the nut?


Pulley pic
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The manual has disgrams if the oul line routing in the back
Muffler bracket has a spacer and a bolt washer washer nut
Nut lock looks bad
Get rid of your side stand switch solder and seal the wires together or you will regret it.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I only have a pdf of the Manual it doesn't appear to show the oil routing.

Could you send me a pic?
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Akbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my X-1, there is a main chassis ground bolt almost directly above the end of the wire shown in your photo. Check there for the other end. And my main wiring harness is tucked up and in compared to yours.

Again my X-1, the oil lines run aft, under the cam chest, then hang a left and run under/aft of the bottom of the transmission case and then up between the left side of the swingarm mounting block and the backside of the primary case, then up to the bottom of the oil tank.

And yeah, like S1owner says, most folks here unplug and discard the sidestand switch and connect the two harness ends of the switch connection together.

Hope this helps, Dave
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is supposed to be a bolt and spacer there to attach the exhaust to the hanger. I wouldn't ride it too long without that support. You'll end up breaking the studs in the head, and that's no fun.
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Egagnon086
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Understood everybody, Thanks for all the input. The guy I got this from works at the local, "Custom" shop and I guess he just got tired with this thing. I'm going to go back through it and try my best to make it as close to stock condition as I can.

Can I order the buell specific parts from the local Harley dealer. Like the battery hold down? Or if anyone has one of these lying around I'd be interested.

I'll probably follow yalls lead when it come to soldering the sidestand switch.

Anyone know what exhaust this is, PO said it was a V&H, id don't see any plate or name on it. It does have the "Race ecu" in it, or at least that's what the ecu has printed on it.
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