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Tony302
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2015 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like to do this to mine? My local shop does not do it..how many of you have done it to your tubers exhaust?? Does the outside temp stop burning your thigh and leg?? Does it last or am I just hoping for too much : ) pics would be nice too
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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2015 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I send my stuff to Jet-Hot...

I've done it to 4 different Buells and just sent them a cross over and headers for one of my Moto Guzzis.

It lasts and does help with heat. I recommend it!
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Forerunner
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to use Jet-Hot exclusively but ran into quality issues that necessitated sending parts back multiple times for recoating.

I've used Classic Coatings on my last 3 bikes(Cr, Blast, X1). I'd heard that Classic Coatings did the blue ceramics on the White Lightning but haven't verified.

Whoever you use, I highly recommend it.


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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good looking x1..about how much does it run for on average?
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1313
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd heard that Classic Coatings did the blue ceramics on the White Lightning

You heard wrong. HPC originally did some ceramic coating for Buell - like the silver header on X1 Millennium. By the time of the X1W, I believe that the merging of HPC and Jet-Hot had taken place as I recall Jet-Hot being used for the X1W's blue header.

Classic Coatings did do most
of the Buell powdercoating - I'm not aware of Classic Coatings doing any Buell ceramic coating,
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Forerunner
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You left out the rest of my sentence.

"I'd heard that Classic Coatings did the blue ceramics on the White Lightning but haven't verified."

Thanks for the friendly verification.
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Forerunner
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good looking x1..about how much does it run for on average?

A couple of recent ones out of the Classifieds section, a Millennium for $2200
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 760395.html?1435188754

And a white one for $4500
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 763808.html?1434337564

Full disclosure, the white one is mine.
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FORERUNNER nice white lightning very beautiful I had my subframe and rims powder coated I got tired of polishing the pm wheels is a pita. I meant to ask how much does the ceramic coating go for??
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Forerunner
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Tony.

I completely understand the pain of polishing. The polished subframe and swingarm are gorgeous but I don't have the time to keep them looking as good as they deserve. Doesn't help that I'm particular and keep the inside of the swingarm polished as well.

One of the reasons I'm looking for someone that can give her the attention she deserves. : (

Ceramic coating prices:
http://classiccoatings.com/prices.html
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Tony302
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah I used to polish the rims every weekend I just got tired of it, I was going to send the tail and wheels to get them polished but I was end up being a slave to my self..thanks for the link, now the choice it between black or silver coating, I just can't stand my leg cooking inside from the heat of the pipe..
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Lakes
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are experiencing heat issues while your riding, might be the tune you are running?

i don't notice heat from the pipes, i used jet hot coating ( Silver ) on my Dyna twin cam mostly because pipes where custom had nothing on the bare metal & i don't like chrome on pipes. there was no performance gain at all, but they looked nice coated & was like alloy to polish. soon after turning motor off i noticed they cooled fast so could touch pipe not get burnt, like with Chrome Pipes. but when motor running you could not touch them they were hot but not quite as hot as without.
still nice look.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had a few pipes ceramic coated. Jet Hot was one of them. They did a very nice job including spraying the inner part of the pipe. The shipping was quite a bit. I cannot say how long they lasted as I sold them a year later because I wanted a different style. I then went to a local shop and it looked great. It only lasted less than a year with tiny rust pits showing thru. Then I tried another local shop and told the owner about the last shop. This job has lasted for 3 years so far. Preparation of the parts is usually the most important part. This is the same as with any job. Ask for references. I hope this helps. Good luck.
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Jkgonzo
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2015 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also went with Jet-Hot. They did need to do it twice since it started pealing after the first application. I went with them because of who they are and their reputation of quality workmanship so needless to say, I was disappointed. The second time was the charm. No issues and they covered all costs including shipping to and from them. Looks and turned out great......
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2015 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim ,you have a great looking X1
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Tony302
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2015 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jkgonzo I love your color scheme, I'm going going for all black my self got a few things to go.I see your front motor mount is blacked out, I'll have to send that out to get powder as well I like the look..as far as the pipes go did the black make a significant notice in surface temp as in does it cook your leg still??
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2015 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

K12pilot is selling a set of those plastics and parts
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Tony302
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2015 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I already have the bike done just now looking at it is the little things I did not think off before I started, like the headers for sure I will be doing and front mount.
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Jkgonzo
Posted on Monday, July 06, 2015 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't really know if the change was significant, but it doesn't(the heat)seem to be as noticeable as it use to be. I sure love the look of it though.....
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Arizona_buell
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love the X1 pictures above . Love em . I went with Jet Hott shipping was not out of line but it added to the cost for sure.

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Lakes
Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2015 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the look of Ceramic coated headers & have had Harley headers coated in past, but when riding at speed i could not notice heat or less heat. i've been riding Harleys since the late 70's. the M2 i have now does not feel like its running too hot? if i was in heavy traffic maybe , but i don't sit in traffic i split the lanes. the pipe on the M2 not close to my leg, but my friends 97 S1 pipe goes over the frame so that would be closer to leg. all the bikes in these pictures inside frame pipe. so can someone explain why everyone notices heat without ceramic coating?
i am riding up the coast today will be on my M2 for five hours. its winter here in Australia so warmer is good.
cheers
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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I feel no discomfort from the header heat in my X1. But I hardly ever get stuck in any traffic.
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I do, at least I used to I only ride when I'm home now,I live in st.pete fl and used to ride to Tampa for work and always got stuck in traffic, I just want to do it for looks I done a lot on the x1 powder coat wise just doing the whole black out on her.
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed a big difference in the amount of heat on my silver ceramic pipe. I'd taken off the plastic Heat Shield already (for looks) and after adding the ceramic, it really doesnt' need it. I couldn't believe the difference, after a long ride, I can hold my hand literally a quarter inch away from the outside of the header pipe (near the rear bend) indefinitely, as in it isn't even uncomfortable. The stock pipe would blister your skin that close. Very worthwhile upgrade IMHO.
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Tony302
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok cool, yeah so it's worth to spend the extra to get this done, I like the looks of it the fact that it helps with surface temp is great cause mine always burns my calf after a while of traffic riding that is
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