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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so what are the tricks. i know its left hand threads but i can not get mine off?
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Zenbiker
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are not going to reuse the pulley, I found that a well placed vice grips or two clamped onto the pulley will allow you to twist the nut off actually works quite well.
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont think that will help me my Issue is I can not break the nut free?
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Loose1
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you using an air impact?
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Koz5150
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a similar issue. I ended up using pipe in the rear wheel to brace it and a 6ft pipe on my breaker bar to get the nut loose. Mine got so tight because I was running an aluminum pulley and the splines stripped out.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DO NOT USE IMPACT. It will damage your transmission and your output bearing.

Tight belt.

Lock the wheel to the swingarm using a pipe through the spokes.

LONG breaker bar, steady pressure. It will pop. If not...spray it down one night, let it sit overnight, try again.

You do have the locking washer out of the way, right??
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will not use an impact i heard about that.
I lubed it down and will let it soak. I have a block of wod in the wheel just was not sure how much pressure to put on it. I will see what happens tomorrow.
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Zenbiker
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1. What I meant is carefully clamp the vise grips to the flange of the pulley so that engine case blocks movement of the vise grips. Be careful of sharp impacts or forcing "unnatural" movement of the output shaft.
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Zenbiker
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then use leverage
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Jolly
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just pulled one off..... May not have been as tight as it should have been... But...

I put it in gear and had someone sit on the bike with the rear brake applied and then used a breaker bar to remove the nut.

Make sure you clean the threads on the not and the shaft or you'll get a false torque value reinstalling!!!

I used a dremel and a small thin wire wheel to clean all of the old thread locker out
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Pikeben08
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on a bar through the wheel. That's what I did with mine along with me hanging off of the end of 4ft of pipe.
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys i was just wery of how much pressure I need to put on it so out comes the pipe!
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well that is not working 1/2" breaker 4 ft lever wont budge!
What locktight is on it do i need to apply heat to the nut? Temped to cut the nut off.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

shouldnt have to use heat, I know I didnt
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Phelan
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4" breaker bar should get ANYTHING. I once turned left a reverse threaded nut with a 4" breaker. Needless to day that biznitch was stripped and stuck after that even though I could turn it easily.
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Pikeben08
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe you just need to weigh more. Go grab a cheeseburger and milkshake and then try again.

Did you PB Blasterize it?
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gain weight lol I am 6 ft 250 pounds dont think thats an issue! Yes i have soaked it did it again tonight. Just to be sure here left handed threads clockwise to loosen I am not insane right?
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Harleyelf
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Left hand thread does turn clockwise to loosen. Not qualified to judge your sanity.
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4 foot bar at 250lbs (if you stand on it) and you're technically applying 1000ft-lbs to that nut...You could definitely raise the rear tire off the ground or even flip the bike over on its head with that much torque...
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V74
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im 6'2" and about 250 but my problem is getting a socket to fit without spending loads.
tried a crowsfoot that a friend lent me but that wouldn't budge it.
I have international gearing and have a 27 tooth that I want on it , I'm also considering cutting the damn nut off.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok what size and type of socket should be used
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Kalali
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So after all this, now you're asking what size socket to use? Don't say you've been using an adjustable wrench...
As for the size, its a big mofo socket...and I had to borrow it from a buddy.
[Sorry, could not resist]
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No its a big mofo socket just wanted thoughts as this socket although new has a radius on the ends and its a 16 point so it likes to slip off so i was just seeing what others are using. I am pretty sure this is factory install and red loctited!
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For mine I also tightened a bit first just to see if I could move it. It was a bear. I ended up standing on the pipe. It did suck as bike repair jobs go.
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Screamer
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1,
I have a sprocket holding tool (41321) that I could lend to you if you're interested, It would prevent the risk of damage from putting something in the wheel.
R
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Screamer pm sent
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2014 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and again I ask...you DO have the lockwasher removed already, right??
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Mcelhaney14
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S1owner, I use a 1 7/8 in socket 12pt and I remember having to use a big cheater bar to get it loose.
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes lock washer removed.
I am picking up the pulley locking tool and a special socket tonight that will take oit the belt stretch and get me a 6 point socket so we will see where this goes.
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever you do , don't forget you have bearing behind there with the shaft riding on it. Replacing that bearing/race is a bit of a pain, I have been told.
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