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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2014 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is an LSL superbike conversion top tree and bars. Right know the xb stem is in there just for mocking it up. I may modify it or I have a M2 stem I could press in.
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Purpony
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2014 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking good. I also have an lsl triple. Haven't installed it yet thought.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2014 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a rough look at what I am after ( do not laugh its rough)
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2014 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Just messing with ya.

Seriously Ken, nice project. Like I said before, I really like the direction you are heading on this project, keep up the good work!
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Joesbuell
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2014 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you use the pulleys and belt I said you don't need the idler roller at all.
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing against your setup Jodie just trying something different
Stock gearing is 27/61 which is a 2.26 ratio I could run a 65 xb rear with the 27 front which is 2.41 (6.6% shorter)and lose some top end which is not a deal breaker would be a lowend monster as Al said sim to a dirt bike. But if I run an XB rear 65 with a 29 front the ratio would be close to 2.24 almost matching the 2.26 stock.
Yes I will need a longer belt and a tensioner but Its just another challenge.
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Serialk
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking Good!!! I like where you are going with this! I am currently running an 65 Xb rear and a 29 front on my X1. A uly belt is too small. I had to get a 2006 Harley Dyna belt to make it work.
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jamieson how many teeth is that belt? Thanks for the info.
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Joesbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good luck finding a belt that long....
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Dannybuell
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the xb900 has a short legged primary ratio
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Serialk
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad. I just looked back at my notes. The Ulysses belt was too long for my setup it was at 135 teeth where as the stock xb belt is at 128 teeth. Too small. The belt from a 2006 dyna is 132 teeth which is just right for my application. If you are using a tensioner then maybe a Ulysses belt will work at 135 teeth and take up some of the slack
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Joesbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

135 belt will be too short for what he is trying to do!
The length of the axle to drive pulley is longer then stock! 65/29 is what he wants to use....right?

I'm running 55t rear and 26t front and a uly 135t belt! Do the math....the space between each tooth is 14mm he's adding a total of 13 more teeth! I don't think there is a belt made that much longer! Like I said before good luck finding a belt that much longer...

I spent a lot of time researching this when I did my build and made it so I could use factory or easy to get aftermarket parts...

Just trying to help...
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may in fact end up using Joes combo have just started scratching the surface with the gears. Joe whatt is your run out ratio?
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Joesbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2014 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

55/26 similar to 61/29 from memory little taller I think. My bike rode awesome...before I blew the motor up....
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok does anyone have a trashed 135t that I could get for mock up purposes?

Joe how did you blow the motor?
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Joesbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thrashing it around Queensland Raceway. Extremely hot day and was pinging melted rear piston.
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well at least you had a smile on your face when it happened right!

What are your thoughts on a chain conversion?
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Joesbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did have a ball until it shit itself : )

My new single sided swingarm will be chain drive plus motor will be 1430cc so more reliable then a belt with the extra grunt ; )
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice you doing a Ducati conversion arm or custom?
And don't worry I wont be going that far!
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Joesbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Custom but using ducati hub and wheel.
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice you will have to keep us posted on that one you going to integrate the oil tank?
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Joesbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will be all in my thread once I start it and yes oil tank will be intergrated. Will be running a hypermotard wheel.
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well do you want to sell me a 55 and 26 setup?
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Joesbuell
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2014 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No sorry way too much work went into it...
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM Sent about a belt...
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Twintalon
Posted on Monday, January 06, 2014 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Definitely gonna keep an eye on this. I'm lovin the progress and the direction.
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Ceejay
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Jodie!

S1 - Joesbuell is right on that belt, the wheelbase of the bike bumps to 57.25 from 55" so that's a 4" longer belt right there. A stock length chain will work, I can't remember what I was going to run I think it was a 55/26 or some such. I didn't make it nearly as far as Jodie (life got in the way), but I do know I wouldn't have made it as far without bouncing things off him.

I didn't like the extended wheelbase, and not being able to keep the marchesini 3 spokes(or at least by listening to what my pocket book would allow).

Sorry to hear about the blown motor but glad to hear that your still flogging your excellent creation Jodie.

Enjoy the build S1 owner! IMO it's the coolest mod that can be done to a Buell.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have not done much lately ordered my 1250 kit recieved my headlight!
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Gianni312
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2014 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love the build idea. It looks similar to the "yes she can Buell" with the minimalist seat. I want to do the same thing however i am wondering if I can modify the xb swing arm to use the s1 penske shock. Any thoughts?
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2014 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anything can be done but your tuber shock is a pull shock so as long as it is pulling on the compression stroke it can work will just take some engineering
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