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Rockhead
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having my 170 rear tire replaced with a 180 later this week; will I have issues with clearing the tire hugger?
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M2typhoon
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The tire will fit fine as long you shoot for the 180/55/17. The only think I don't like is if I have a hot tire, it likes to grind rocks against the inside of the hugger until the rock pops out. You will feel that the bike corners ever so slightly slower slower too.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find the 180/55/17 a good replacement tire. Probably lasts a tick longer than the 170.(same compound)
I'm sure I don't run it as hard as typhoon does now a days.But ten years ago when I would do a track day, I probably did.
It's a matter of what you like(looks) and riding style. I switched to the 180 after about 3k miles(Avons)and was very pleased with the handling of the tires.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sure that some 180/55/17s will fit under the hugger just fine. But some others won't.

Also, some 180/55/17 tires are larger than others. Same goes for 170/55/17s.

When I was in Washington I put a set of ultra soft Shinkos on my M2 for mountain roads. The rear 170/55/17 was so wide that it touched the hugger so I had to run without it.

Now I run Dunlop D-616s. The 180/55/17 rear is wider than some other similarly sized tires.

Even if you decide to run a 170 you might have a tight fit depending on brand and model of tire.



(Message edited by Dave 02 1200 on May 06, 2013)
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Rockhead
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2013 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input. Adds to the BWB Tuber knowledge base. That being said, I forgot that I actually upgraded in tire choices (Metzler M3 to M5) and was able to keep the OEM (170) size!
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Bzband
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2013 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just want to add a +1 to Dave's comment. Just added Dunlop D616's last season w/180 rear. Really like them a lot! 2002 M2
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Henshao
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just want to express my curiosity as to why people run bigger tires than stock? In a car I gather the reason, but on a bike I don't understand.
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Rockhead
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In this situation, it was a choice between keeping the same make and model of tire (Metzler M3, which is no longer offered in 170) or upgrading to the M5 and keep the 170 size.
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Henshao
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You must really like the M3's! I'm going with the popular Michelin dual compounds
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Bzband
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henshao, understanding has very little to do with anything at all. For me personally, I love the look of a wide rear tire, good or bad that's what I like. Coincidentally that's also why I like my USA made M2 instead of a Duc or GSXR.....its not a matter of why, it's a matter of saying "ok, cool....this is what I like". My harley buddies and my rocket buddies ask the same question, "why a BUELL?" for some its performance, for some its appearance, style, staying stock, total mods.....let it breath Bro, it's just a choice...own yours and let others own theirs...support creates the connection.
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Henshao
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't be curious? A lot of things are purely preference, but fooling around with tire size could affect safety. I can't be curious why someone throws out all the engineering and design team research time out the window? I doubt a little change will affect anything but even still. If I knew that 180 size tires have a habit of blowing out on Cyclones, you would have me say nothing?
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Bzband
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henshao, no disrespect intended, I only meant to say that its a matter of opinion....maybe I over did it? My sincere apologies if so, we're all just riders hanging on the web. As to your reply...mods are common, and bone stock is respected in my opinion. I assume by your reply that your bike is bone stock considering your concerns of straying from any original engineering and safety designs? To the original question and to simplify if it helps, I'll change my original reply to....."because I like them". All in fun my friend, didnt mean to strike a nerve. In all seriousness I don't have any knowledge of blowouts from 180s on M2s but would like any input from anyone as to when, why and how that's happening.
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Henshao
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They don't, I'm just sayin'
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2013 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Putting a 180 on a rim designed to hold a 170 is going to "pinch" the tire, giving you a different profile and causing changes in transitional handling as well as initial tip-in to turns.

It is a NOTICEABLE difference. Personally...I do not like it.

If you want to run a 180...do it the "right" way and put on a set of PM wheels. They are sized properly for a 180 tire.
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Fatrat
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotta agree with Ratbuell. PO of my bike had put on a 180. Replaced with a 170.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2013 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tire profile is NOTICEABLE,a 1/2 in rim width won't pass the blindfold test.LOL
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