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Rsm688
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How big of a job is it to pull the whole motor out of a tuber? I know its a PITA to change the isolators. Ive been thinking about blacking out the motor and figured it would probably be easier to just pull the motor, swap the isolators, polish the swingarm, and paint the engine but am unsure of how big of a job it is.


Thanks,
Spencer

(Message edited by rsm688 on September 29, 2012)
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2012 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO it's easier to treat the motor as a fixed component and remove the frame.

There's a couple methods out there that simplify isolator replacement from whats in the service manuals.
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Roderick
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...change the isolators.
Here is one method. Never tried it myself but I pdf-ed it anyway.

http://danielcstarr-pages.blogspot.com/2008/09/una uthorized-scott-free-technique-for.html
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Rsm688
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay well that makes sense about "removing the frame". Anyways, do you guys think it would be easier to try and paint the heads and possibly case, polish the swingarm, and swap the isolators without "removing the frame". It doesnt seem like it would be too tough to remove, the isolator bolts/motor mounts/exhaust/wires and then just lift the whole thing up and off the motor.

Im gonna have my forks and wheels/tires off as well. Gonna rebuild/powder coat the forks, replace steering head bearings, and put wheel stripes on my wheels and powdercoat my pulleys.


The tank and fenders and all will be off as well to be painted

Thanks,
Spencer
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Gusm2
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think if your gonna paint and polish all the other parts you'd be as well having the frame powdercoated too
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Rsm688
Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2012 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ive been back and forth on that, my frame is actually in great condition other than a few small blemishes. Theres some spots under the tank and seat that the finish wore off but nothing that is visible when the bike is together. And I am a college student on a budget so money is tight, Im gonna get an estimate on it and make a decision then.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My opinion, tear it down all the way, especially since you are pulling the front end. It's not much of a leap to pull the frame. You will be much happier in the long run.

I always explain tubers this way..."most bikes have the motor in the frame, but tubers have the frame on the motor"

Good Luck!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw video of the crew assembling tubers on the line.
They had the engine,swingarm and all under the engine and then put the frame on top like a hat : )
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Rsm688
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I'm just gonna do it, I've got 3 weeks off to work on it. Since I'm pulling it all apart, what all should I replace while I'm at it, here's what I'm doing so far:

New fork seals
New front and rear isolator
New belt?? (9500 miles on my bike)
New steering head bearings



Other stuff to be done:
Engine powder coating
Polish swing arm
Powder coat forks
Paint plastics
Polish front motor mount


Any other suggestions on things I could or should do


Thanks,
Spencer
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its not that bad to get the motor out, good luck brother!
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Powdercoat the swingarm.
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Rsm688
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I cant decide if I should polish or powdercoat the swing arm. My exhaust is all black, forks will be black, motor will be black, frame will be black, wheels are black, pulleys black, and Im thinking of going with a dark gray or silver color.

Do you guys think I should powdercoat the swingarm black or polish it


thanks hybrid, I will definately be taking some pictures of my build once the time comes.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I chromed my swing arm...






Just add frame....



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Rsm688
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow that thing looks good, thats my plan to is to strip it completely.

Did you leave the cylinders/cases the way they were from the factory? and polish the crankcase cover?

How much of a job was it to pull/reinstall the frame and everything else?
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Rsm688
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2012 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, what did you do with your pulleys/pulley cover?

Any pics of the bike all back together?
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RSM,

I used a chrome primary cover and polished the cam cover. I sold the old pulley covers.

It’s a pretty straight forward a job if you have some basic experience. I suggest you take photos as you tear it down, so you can refer to them later during reassembly. Be sure to catalog all of your hardware (no matter how minor or damaged), zip-lock bags and a sharpie come in real handy. A factory shop manual and parts catalog come in real handy too.

If possible reassemble with new engine mounting bolts and use recall style front and rear isolators (ebay and American Sport Bike are good sources)

When you have the frame painted be sure to note all ground connections and ask your painter not to paint those areas (it will make your life a lot easier during assembly).

Above all, take your time....

I have a lot photos of the project from breakdown to completion.

Don’t hesitate to PM me if you have any questions during the process, always glad to help.









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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RSM
swing arm bearings and seals
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