| Author | Message | ||
     Thylacine |
lately, in right hand turns, tends to be on/off ramps. My clutch slips if I am not hard on the gas. This is the only time it happens. Any ideas? | ||
| Buellistic |
Have you did the CLUTCH PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT and got rid of the SPRING PLATE(aka GRENADE PLATE) yet ??? Would you like to have my CLUTCH ADJUSTMENT Class 101, if so just PM me ... | ||
| Thylacine |
I am interested in the product improvement. Is my symptom indicative of a grenade plate issue? Bike is coming up on 50k. Always followed manual for adjustment ,but I will take a look at what you are suggesting. Thank you | ||
| Jim2 |
When you say that your clutch slips do you mean, RPM's increase without the power transfer to the rear wheel, or do you mean you enter neutral for a brief moment followed by a thud and the engagement of the gear you should have had all along? The former could be the grenade plate issue, the later would be worn dogs on the transmission gears. I've experienced and fixed the grenade plate issue on mine, I currently "live" with the worn dog issue for now. The grenade plate for me showed up as a clutch that would lose it's adjustment at random. If I intervened and adjusted the clutch and got it perfect it would last for an hour or for several days and then it would be off again. Sometimes it would seem to fix itself again. Turns out that several of the many spring steel pieces that are supposed to be riveted into place between the plate housing were floating around loose. Sometimes several would bunch up together and cause a thick spot that threw the clutch adjustment off. Then they might move around again and relieve the thick spot and so on. | ||
| Thylacine |
I think it is the dog issue. It is only if I am in too high a gear for the speed I'm doing. I've never had my Trans apart but that makes sense that they are falling out of thier house | ||
| Jim2 |
Yeah, mine only happens in a right hand turn. Doesn't happen all the time but when it does it sucks. I've been into my transmission and the worn dogs are obvious. They aren't as bad as some pictures I've seen but bad enough to cause the miss. I'm just waiting for some good gears to fall into my lap then I'll fix it. If you haven't replaced the grenade plate be sure to do so when you go into the transmission if you do. I have a few extra slightly used fiber plates but I'm out of the steel. You'll need two steel and one fiber to replace the single "spring plate". If you want a fiber plate send me a PM. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My grenade plate went bad just over 50,000 so you should plan on doing that at least and then go on from there if the issue still persists. Mine behaved like it was dragging and I couldn't adjust it to feel right no matter what. | ||
| Thylacine |
I guess it is time for a six speed. I was hoping not to not tear into it until something leaked or I figured out my open primary situation. Thank all of you. My brain was hurting as to why this would only happen in a right turn. Your knowledge has once again helped. Well, actually we dont know what os wrong but I am confident and at ease with the worn dog diagnosis.once again thanks  | ||
| Jim2 |
Here is my theory: So, when in a right turn on a certain gear combination the dog and the dog house are barely in contact with another. Under normal circumstances they will pull each other together because of the tapered cut of the dogs and houses. When the edges of the dogs are worn, instead of pulling each other together they may slip resulting in additional rotation while not engaged. That same gear set that is worn will be in slightly closer contact with each other during the left hand corner due to slop on the shaft and gravity. Now the same gear set that has trouble engaging in the right hand turn does a little better in the left hand turn. Most of the gears are held to the shafts between rings that lock into grooves on the shaft. Other gears are free to slide back and forth controlled by the shift forks. There is a certain amount of slop that exists. Some of that may also vary from one transmission to another based on slight variations during assembly. I've though about seeing if I could tweak the alignment to improve the engagement despite the wear but that's just crazy (although very tempting). I should just get the new gear sets and then go back in. If you get a baker six I may be interested in some of your gears. There are a few that are common and one or more may be able to replace my worn ones. Just a thought. Trouble is it hurts my head to think about which one goes where, esp. when the transmission is not out and in my hands. | ||
| Jim2 |
Oh, yeah. Your bike looks great! | ||
| Schmidt452 |
Jim2 I would keep an eye out on ebay- I picked up a whole gear set from an 04 sportster for 140. I had so swap my shaves out because of the new design shifter but it worked great! I also but set screws over the pins in the shift drum, one of the cotter pins broke and allowed the pin in the shift drum to pop out. Thus not moving it out of one gear as it moved into another. |
