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Stuarth224
Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need some advice and maybe help with my s2. The frame is broke on both sides of lower support that holds the front forks on to the frame. Can that be weilded back to new and does anyone in texas have the equipment and time to help me.I got a picture of one side that shows the crack.

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Greg_cifu
Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, that is not good news. At very least, I suspect you are going to need to tear the entire bike down to a bare frame. That's so a really competent welder can flip and rotate the frame in enough positions to get to all of that. That's if you can find anybody to take it on.

That's a high stress area and I have to wonder how/why it broke. Was the bike wheelied a lot? Ducati 900s from the early to mid 90s were known for being fragile in that area and sloppy wheelies would bend or break them in a similar fashion.

You might also check ebay for a replacement frame. I'm afraid this guy looks like he's parting an entire S2:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320935222283
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stuart, have any reason to come to Amarillo? I have a frame I could make you a great deal on but I'm not keen on shipping it.

(Message edited by Phelan on July 06, 2012)
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Rex
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an extra frame, but not interested in shipping. I do not have a title for it. I live in Phoenix. REX
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Stuarth224
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So does that mean it isn't salvageable? I was hoping to keep the sn# matching. How good of a deal Ross? your closer than Phoenix.
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Gowindward
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take it to a good welder and it will be good as new.
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Greg_cifu
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As suspected, that poor S2 in Florida is a total part-out. He just listed the frame on Ebay if you want it.

Crying damn shame. That was a pretty bike when it was up for sale.
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Analbeard
Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get another frame and stamp your numbers into it..
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Blks1l
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did the tubing break or the weld? I would think it wouldn't be an issue in getting it repaired by a competent welder. I do think it would be best also to get it down to the frame for the repairs also.

(Message edited by Blks1l on July 25, 2012)
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Lynrd
Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These frames are 4130 chromemoly. I read somewhere that the earlier frames were TIG welded and at some point the process was changed to MIG - which is a cheaper process as it doesn't require the skill and knowledge TIG does. TIG would be the correct process to use for this repair IMHO.

If you get it welded I'd actually suggest finding someone used to working with the material like an aircraft or sprint car chassis shop. I ran a shop that built chromemoly HD frames (Gambler) and the only time we ever saw a problem with the material was when a customer went out and welded on our frames. If done incorrectly, you could see a fracture happen about 3" away from the customers weld (saw that twice). Root cause was traced back to customers welding introducing too much localized heat and causing stress on the tubing.

At the time, there was some talk about using a bake off oven to normalize the welds, which we didn't do - but we had a specific process and order of welding that kept the heat well distributed in the chassis. We also did sprint car chassis using the same material and techniques.

Not impossible or even difficult to repair that fracture, but you need a GOOD welder - not just the guy at the muffler shop.

(Message edited by Lynrd on August 04, 2012)

(Message edited by Lynrd on August 04, 2012)
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Bkerchuck
Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suffered this exact same break in 1999 on my 95 S-2. Buell reframed my bike as a goodwill warranty. I've heard rumors that this happend more than they would like to admit.
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