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Jim2
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today I fired up the bike and heard an unfamiliar rattle sound. Turns out the center tie-bar mount was missing the bolt on the front cylinder and the mount tab on the rear cylinder was broken in two. I guess the front bolt worked it's way out and the whole assembly was free to move and shake until it cracked the back tab.

First I need to locate these parts:
- 16272-98Y (Qty 1) Center Tie-bar mount
- 4748 (Qty 2) Screw , 3/8-16 X 1-1/8 hex socket hd., zinc, gr. 8
- 6701 (Qty2) Washer , 3/8 X 3/4 X 1/16 zinc

Question 1) Is it OK for me to continue commuting to work with no center tie-bar? This is Houston and the roads are straight. I think I can refrain from wheelies. At least I'll try.

Question 2) Anybody have a serviceable Center Tie-bar mount 16272-98Y for a 99' thru 2002 M2 Cyclone they will sell/trade/give me?


center tie-bar mount with cracked back tab

See the cracked mount tab for the rear cylinder.


center tie-bar mount, front tab loose

See the front mount tab hanging free in the breeze. I haven't a clue how that happened but I did check to make sure the screw wasn't broken off and it's not.

I will check with Al at American Sport Bike but if ya'll can answer my questions and check your parts bins, It'll be much appreciated.
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Maxbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would not ride it. Your taking a chance on break alot more, and could hurt your self. put it up till you get the parts to fix her.
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Deant
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its the metal mount thats broken? I have one pm me.
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FIX IT BEFORE YOU RIDE AGAIN !!!
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Jim2
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took the bolt out of the broken back tab and put in in the front good tab. Now it's held in place at one point. I'm buying a replacement from Dean. In the mean time I'm checking front and top mounts and the bolts pre and post ride. I don't have any alternate vehicle right now so I'm in a bad position.
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Blks1l
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could you weld it up as a temporary fix until you get the other part?
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Captainkirk
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't ride it. Rent a car. The engine is a stressed member of the frame.
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Jim2
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try to find someone that can weld it this weekend. I don't see any reason that it can't be welded.

Thanks for the input, advice, and warnings of wisdom.

I spoke with Al at American Sport Bike. He says he's never heard of that mount breaking before. The part is discontinued and only available new through Vintage Parts. Vintage Parts does not deal direct to individuals. HD Buell service centers can get it and Al can also get it. There are only a 28 left.

I'm working with Deant to buy his because I think I'll get it quicker than buying a new one.

(Message edited by jim2 on January 13, 2012)
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Blks1l
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So do you have one coming from Deant, I probably have an extra, that could be shipped to Houston in a day, I am just north of Austin. If you have allready got one coming, I think the weld repair would still work though until the other one arrives.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you BUELLers remember:

ANY STRESS MEMBER SHOULD BE ASSEMBLED FINGER TIGHT, LET ENGINE HANG FROM IT OR THEM AND THEN TORQUE REPLACED PARTS TO TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS ...
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Jim2
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2012 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Blks1| -> Deant has already taken care of shipping to me.

I have parked the bike and I'll see if I can get the broken piece welded this weekend. I have a backup vehicle till next Friday.

Thank you for your offer.

All is well in Buelldom(Really well), go Danny, Geoff, Erik, EBR
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Jim2
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was able to have the broken mount welded today. A washer was added on top and welded to add material after the broken tab was initially welded on. This will do me until the part I purchased from DeanT arrives.
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Jim2
Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pics of the welded mount

center tie-bar mount1


center tie-bar mount2


center tie-bar mount3
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A good weld job always puts a smile on your face.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOOKING GOOD !!!
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Jim2
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About Cyclonecharlies comment:
"A good weld job always puts a smile on your face."

That is very funny you say this. The guy that did this weld job was not very cheerful, friendly, warming, or welcoming when I walked into his shop. Of course, I walked in right at closing and he does high-end drift cars so I was not his typical customer.

By the time he finished the weld job, he was smiling and cheerful.

I think I need to get a welding machine.



(Message edited by jim2 on January 16, 2012)
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