| Author | Message | ||
     Boballica |
A few weeks ago I change the shifter linkage on my X1 and had a few problems that somehow worked themselves out after really doing nothing on my part, which can be seen here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?47623/650916 I was riding last night and again all was well until this morning. I turn the key to the start position, engine light properly cycles, fuel pump cycles and when I hit the start button nothing happened. Turn the key on and back on to get the same result. I somehow think that the previous issues I had are rearin their ugly head again and I do not know where to go. Prior to changing the shifter linkage I had absolutely no problems at all but now I have a bike that is un reliable. Is there something I should check for that is loose that would prevent the starter fr working? Would this be related to the kickstand switch as in the fuel pump will not cycle again if it is down as well? Would a wire be loose in the switch itself? Any page in the service manual I should look at? Given Buell is no more is there a place that I can take it for service? I can do minor mechanical stuff but I have ver limited ability in anything electrical. There is a HD dealership Here in Savannah but they never were a Buell as well. There are also a few Japanese motorcycle dealerships as well. I kinda think I somehow opened up a can of worms here. Thanks for any and all help. (Message edited by Boballica on September 22, 2011) (Message edited by Boballica on September 22, 2011) | ||
| Jramsey |
Shove a straight pin thru the two side stand switch wires and try again. If this works either a new switch or like most here just bypass it. | ||
| Boballica |
I'll try that tonight. I read my post again and it is a bit confusing but I have two separate, perhaps, issues here. 1. The fuel pump will not cycle when the kickstand is down and 2. When the stand is lifted, fuel pump cycles and all appears well but the bike will not start when the button is hit - not even a click. Thanks again for any help. | ||
| Buellistic |
Boballica: If you want on the LOW COUNTRY(Savannah Area)BUELL Riders E-mail List, just PM me ... If you want some HELP "INFO", just PM me ... | ||
| Xl1200r |
The fuel pump may not cycle if the system is already pressurized, so if you were experienting the order you tried things may come into account. If the bike is in nuetral, everything should work just fine regardless of where the kickstand is. It sounds to me like you have some issues between the nuetral indicator and the kickstand switch. | ||
| Akbuell |
A lot of folks here have bypassed the sidestand switch as a preventative measure. Since you have had issues re sidestand up/down, I would bypass it, were it my bike. IIRC, a 0.250 female blade connector fits nicely over the wire harness connector ends. I just cut the wire socket off, then filled the cavity with RTV. On the bottom of the starter, under the 5-sided cap, is a plug-in connector w/a green wire. Pull that, and with your multimeter installed, turn the ignition on, the stop/run switch on, and push the start button. You should get 12V +/-. If so, there is a starter issue. If not, the issue is somewhere in your control circuit. As XL1200r mentions, might do to check the neutral light switch. | ||
| Greg_cifu |
Battery. I know that it seems counter-intuitive since everything else is working but, I've had them fail right on that delicate edge of everything else works but, the relay won't click. Swap it with another bike--any size battery; you're just looking to see if the starter will engage. I've seen people chase ghosts for days only to discover it was the battery all along. If it turns out to be the battery, make sure the alternator is still charging after you replace it. A failing charging system may have kicked this all off. | ||
| Boballica |
Thanks again for the suggestions. I have a question regarding bypassing the sidestand switch though. What is the easiest, idiot proof method to bypass it? I have never done this before. Does it get bypassed down at the sidestand itself or up near the battery/fuse box? Any pictures that might be beneficial? I tried searching the forums and came across a wiring diagram and I have a service manual but have not seen any actual pictures of the best location. Thanks again for the help. | ||
| Jramsey |
Sewing needle I installed on a Sunday afternoon a couple years ago when the S3 wouldn't start about 110 miles from home.  Thanks for reminding me to fix proper,forgot about it until this morning when I read your first post. (Message edited by Jramsey on September 22, 2011) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Unplug the switch at the sidestand. Insert (paper clip / piece of wire / sewing needle) into the chassis side of the plug (not the sidestand side), connecting the two leads. Done. | ||
| Harleyelf |
Have you checked the starter relay? If the contacts are corroded everything will work except the starter. Try swapping it for the ignition relay - clean the contacts while they're out. | ||
| Boballica |
This weekend flew by and I was not able to get to the problem until tonight. I was able to bypass the sidestand switch, very crudely, and everything seems to be in working order. Now I have removed the switch all together from the bike. My question now is can I just cut the wires leading to the end of the connection, the side that connected directly to the switch, and just solder the wires together to have the switch always on? I was not able to find a small rectangular female blade connector but I figured that I could just cut the wires and connect them and still use the blade connector at hand and just get rid of the switch since its no good. Thanks again for the help. | ||
| Rick_a |
Sure. The other way, if you feel so brave, is to extricate the safety circuit and it's diodes, switches, and relay completely from the wiring harness. | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: You'll have to remember that all these "SAFETY DEVICES" were put on for people that are not REAL MOTORCYCLE RIDERS(just posers !!!) ... The only one that has given me a problem was the side stand switch which "i" bypassed !!! | ||
| Dwardo |
What HarleyElf said. I had that happen to me. I switched relays and had my buddy push me across the parking lot to bump start me. SO much easier than pushing it myself. If you swap relays and the bike cranks but won't start then you have found the problem. |
