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M2typhoon
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ladies/Gents

I have been hunting around for ideas before but I now have the cash to buy parts. I'm going the way of the 1250 kit but who should I buy this from? I also would like some better valve train components; lifters, pushrods, cams, rockers. I want to make some serious power with this rebuild. Any suggestions? I would also like to know if anyone has any experience with aluminum front drive pullies. Thanks!!

(Message edited by m2typhoon on July 01, 2011)
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lots of places to get that stuff from and you can do whatever you want.

if it were me, i would get XB12 cylinders/pistons/heads and a set of (203 i think) cams and the billet front engine mount. alot more bang for alot less buck.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peruse the knowledge vault and see what others have already done and learn from their wisdom (or mistakes). Check with the supporters of this site also, you're probably going to get better customer service from someone you know is Buell friendly and better results from someone who knows the beast the best. 1250 kit and headwork will probably get you the best results.
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M2typhoon
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hammer Performance 1250 kits on ebay for 700?? I have no idea who these guys are.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I have no idea who these guys are." = bad news.

Revolution Performance, NRHS, and I thought Cycle Rama offered Buell kits but now I don't see any kits for XL motors.

With the cams your M2 has already, you're going to lose bottom end with almost any cam swap. With that being said, X1 cams (.497) would probably be the mildest change, followed by Screamin' Eagle .536, and SE "E" grind .551 cams (same profile as XB cams IIRC)
I'm not real familiar with anything bigger than that, but I think you'd be getting into some profiles that will require careful attention be paid to valvetrain upgrades to handle increased spring pressure.

Just an FYI.. comparing the stock .497 cams in my X1 to the stock (as I said I believe .551) cams in my Uly XT, I prefer the characteristics of the X1 cam better. It may not produce as much horsepower, but it has more grunt for street riding and doesn't have to be running > 4000 rpm to make power unlike the XB's cam.

While you're in there, make sure you eliminate all the common tuber "weak links" such as upgrading to a bronze oil pump drive gear and swapping the spring plate in the clutch with two steel + one friction plate.
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 2 weak links are a must as I broke both of those in my Sporty in less than 20k miles.
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Purpony
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you go the XB route like i am, you want XB9 pistons.... not XB12.

Im planning XB9 pistons/jugs, XB heads, andrews cams.
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M2typhoon
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the reasoning for the XB9 top end??
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

reasoning here:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/626794.html

in short, more power for less money, widely available, better starting base to get even more power from.
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M2typhoon
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really don't want to turn my bike into mutt so I'm leaning in the 1250 kit for raw power unless someone can show me a set of dyno charts that says otherwise.
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Notblues2
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Hammer Performance 1250 kits on ebay for 700?? I have no idea who these guys are."

Hammer is a couple of Buell racers Dan and Aaron. They do the machine work for nrhs including the head porting.
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Nallac
Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hammer Performance 1250 kits on ebay for 700?? I have no idea who these guys are.
Have a read here, http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/archive/index.p hp/t-1104028.html
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hammer Performance is a couple people I know pretty good, but Dan Dunn has always been the one I dealt with and I believe he's more personable, so I always sent my money to his shop. Then all three win in the case of headwork : D.
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Weatherbyman
Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah rebuild! Whatever you do CAM it up and ramp up the head work!

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/638191.html?1308667399
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