| Author | Message | ||
     Psykick_machanik |
just found a roofing nail in my one month old front tire. is it possible or even a good idea to repair? theirs no shop on the island to ballance motorcycle tires let alone buy another new one. im a little skittish about the possible outcome after patching. 2000 X1 | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
repair and ride Repairing from inside is better than a plug, but plugs work too. I've plugged tires on my 1125R, not one single problem after thousands of miles (like you, i'd JUST gotten a new set when I caught a nail, sucked. 20 bucks later I was back on the road and no worries) | ||
| Buellistic |
Have a friend that put in three plugs before his tire wore out ... "i" usually get to do one plug before my tire wears out ... | ||
| Nukeblue |
take the tire off and have a tire place put a "plug patch" in it. it has a patch with a plug sticking out of the middle for the best of both worlds. around these parts i use plugs from tech tire repair. excellent products | ||
| Preybird1 |
I do this for a living and nuke is right on. Read this. A punctured speed rated tire brings with it additional considerations. While some tire manufacturers "allow" a tire to retain its speed rating if a specified multi-step repair procedure is followed exactly, most tire manufacturers reason that since they have no control over the damage caused by the puncture or the quality of the repair, they cannot confirm that the tire has retained its high speed capability. Therefore, their policy is that a punctured and repaired tire no longer retains its speed rating and should be treated as a non-speed rated tire. While almost any sharp object left on the road can cause a puncture, most are caused by small nails and screws (typically less than 1/4" in diameter). Guidelines allow the repair of punctures in a tire's tread area of up to 1/4" in diameter. Repair of larger tread punctures and of punctures to the tire's shoulder and sidewall areas are not recommended. There are three primary considerations when repairing a punctured tire. You need to evaluate the damage the object caused as it punctured the tire, reestablish an airtight seal of the tire's innerliner, and completely fill the path the object took through the tire. Typically a mushroom-shaped patch and plug combination repair is considered to be the best method of repairing a punctured steel belted radial. Any repair attempted without removing the tire from the wheel is improper. Without inspecting the inside of the tire for hidden damage comes the risk of returning a weakened tire to service. Punctures in the tread area that looked repairable have revealed upon further investigation that the object that punctured the tire had been long enough to cut the tire's sidewall from the inside. Without dismounting the tire, the hidden damage would have been missed. Simply plugging a tire from the outside without removing the tire from the wheel is improper. (If a tire is punctured while off-roading far away from civilization and a spare tire isn't available, a plug may serve as a temporary low speed solution that must be replaced with a proper repair as soon as possible upon returning to the road.) Additionally, any repair that doesn't completely fill the path the object took through the tire is incomplete. While a patch on the inside of the tire reseals the innerliner, it does not fill the path of the puncture. This will allow moisture to reach the steel belts and/or the casing cords causing them to rust or deteriorate. There are many different rubber compounds used in a tire. The tire's innerliner uses a special rubber compound that has the ability to better retain air. Once punctured, the innerliner must be cleaned, buffed, cemented, patched and coated to assure its ability to retain air has been restored. Since this can only be done from inside the tire, it's another reason that a plug-only repair is improper. Continuing to drive on a tire with a slow leak may allow moisture to seep around the object and into the tire. This will reduce the probability that the tire can be repaired properly because the moisture will ultimately reach the internal steel and fabric cords used to reinforce the tire and possibly cause rust and loss of strength. To assure reestablishing a watertight seal the injury must be cleaned with a specially designed cutting drill that removes rust and sizes the injury properly to accept the rubber stem of the patch. Cemented in place, the stem will vulcanize with the tire to help prevent moisture from reaching the tire's reinforcing cords from the outside. While indoor laboratory tests have shown that freshly punctured and properly repaired speed rated tires can still achieve high speeds, it is not recommended that repaired street tires, or punctured DOT-legal competition tires and racing slicks be used for track events. How do you know which procedures a tire dealer uses? Ask them! But be aware that if they say they can repair a tire in 10 minutes for under $10 dollars without removing it from the wheel, they aren't following the Rubber Manufacturer's Association procedures. A correctly done flat repair that follows the multi-step repair procedures will take approximately 30 minutes and probably cost around $20. Driving on an improperly repaired tire is dangerous because it can further damage the tire and/or allow its strength to deteriorate over time. An improperly repaired tire driven at high speeds may suddenly fail, causing loss of vehicle control. Additionally, the use of an innertube as a substitute for a proper repair generates additional heat and should not be considered. Plugs are dangerous and can get you killed......always remove the tire and check it. you want this little guy in your tire  | ||
| Preybird1 |
Oh i forgot to mention since i am in the "know" Michelin is about to change the way tires are designed. They will soon be releasing there new "SELF REPAIRING TIRE" It has a special inner pillow lining for lack of better words that contains an adhesive and once an object pierces it. It's contents fill the puncture. It is some killer technology and i hope it makes it into the super bike and sport bike tires.  | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
like prey posted, thats what you need. Thats what I have and have had no problems. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Nice, thanks for posting that Preybird! I have to get some of those plugs. Any online places sell them? | ||
| Nukeblue |
http://www.techtirerepairs.com/catalog/ItemDetail. aspx?itemnum=%C2%A0250UL%C2%A0&salessubgroup=MR050 here's the ones we use at work. the best i've ever used. made right here in johnstown ohio. we have a truck come sell us the stuff but i imaging you could contact them. you'll need their glue too, it melts the rubber together | ||
| Psykick_machanik |
And THIS is why this Buell forum ROCKS! Thank you for the info. Its exactly what i needed to know. ill be getting a box of those plug/patches. | ||
| Phelan |
I don't know which brand they were, but we always used the plug /patch combo like the above picture when I worked at WalMart TLE. I've seen the sticky liners in the tires that Russ is talking about, and I'd rather not hav them in my motorcycle tire as they are heavy. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
I've plugged tires and not had issues. Others have plugged tires and have had issues. Your results may vary! |
