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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got the service manual but haven't found the right jacking point underneath.

Can you help me please. I'd like to change out my rear shock and do the tranny service while there too.

Can I reuse the primary cover gasket?

I need two non-pogo'ing bikes for this HC.
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Jim2
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my M2, when I had the shock recall performed, the shop hoisted the rear with a strap around the frame. The strap was attached to a hydrolic lift.

I don't believe there is a jack point you can use underneath.

If the primary cover gasket comes off intact, you should be able to re-use it by applying a thin coat of hylomar. This also helps hold it in place for re-assembly. I get hylomar at the autoparts store repackaged with another label (can't remember the name).
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Jsunstar
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i housted mine with a ratchet strap up into the garage beams...
ive had both bikes completely without wheels up like that... they hung up there all wheel-less for days on end. ive removed shock like that too.
works like a charm.

i tried reusing a primary gasket once... once... it was a messy undertaking. it lasted long enough to get out on the road and let loose.

i think the new gasket was about 5.00. the quart of syn 3 was 10.00
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on jacking it up with straps to the garage rafters.

I use two ratcheting tiedowns with a come-along.
The tiedowns allow me to fine-tune the angle while the come-along is "the muscle".
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Fasted
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good information above, but no one has actually answered the question you posed. we don't all have a a garage or a garage with exposed ceiling beams.....

get jackstands under the pegs or use a lift that uses the pegs as the lifting point. use a bottle jack and a small piece of wood which is larger than the jack post(cases can be punctured by naked jack post)under the the front of the engine cases. be careful about balance concerns up front due to single point of support

jack the rear wheel up a bit and put a support under it so that the shock mount won't move when you remove the bolts. new nylock nuts are cheap...use new ones on reassembly
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fasted - agree, thats what we do.
Im fortunate, we have a Handy lift, so the front wheel gets locked down and keeps thebike upright.
But we just put a jack under the crankcase with a piece of wood to protect it.
Then pop some jack stands under the pass peg mounds or somewhere similar
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks guys. I've got a garage with exposed beams, but no straps and come-along.

I'll see what Farm & Fleet has to help me.
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Phelan
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you could always buy some cheap tiedowns and look for a sturdy branch on a big tree... I live in an apt complex and I used tiedowns strapped around the boards on the upper balcony.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i do have some old tiedowns from my dirt days. thanks.
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99_x1
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i cant believe all you buellars are wrestleing with this, very simple, it involves the scissor jack that comes standard with most automobiles, and a block of wood. place the bike on the side stand, scissor jack on top of rear tire and the block of wood between the jack and the inner fender subframe, and extend the jack until it takes the weight off the shock bolts and voila, out comes the shock. and I did this for a swap from a long shock to a short shock and it worked great. you could do it roadside, no garage or tiedowns needed. no special tool needed either, and you have 3 points of contact with the ground, bike is stable, and if the bolts dont line up perfectly going back in, just adjust the scissor jack for perfect alignment. could'nt be simpler.

(Message edited by 99_X1 on June 01, 2011)
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A chunk of firewood works too. I've seen the pictures.
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Fasted
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i always enjoy it when i do something the hard way, and someone more clever than i walks up and tells me a 95% easier way to do the same job. thanks so much for showing me the obvious. i am laughing my ass off..............
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2kx1
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think a 2 by 4 about 17 inches long is all you need,loosen bolts first, then tilt bike over until 2by 4 fits under footpeg.
Thats it, no need to hang bike.
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"i" use old car body stands under the foot pegs ...

To remove the rear shock bolt a small HYD. jack works on the rear of either side of the swing arm ...

To do the rear isolators small HYD. jack under the rear motor/isolator mount ...

To replace the front isolator or lift front wheel the small HYD. jack goes under the front of the engine as close to the case bolt casting as "i" can get it ...
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'se guys are wonderful.

Thanks for all the great tips.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New (to me) shock installed.

You'll need a 10mm hex head allen. I used one for a 3/8 drive rachet.

99_x1 had the right solution. Used the scissors jack out of the car with a 2x4 across the underneath side of the rear sub-frame. Very little pressure with the jack required

Really appreciate you guys and this site. Couldn't have done it with out you.
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99_x1
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad it worked out. i havnt rode for 2 weeks going through withdrawl.
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Outdoors
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99,

I picked up a Works shock for my M2 and installed it today using your scissor jack and 2x4 method and it was really slick.

Great, simple idea. Thanks.
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Jramsey
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4 years ago I bought a used Handy lift that I rebuilt/modded and after 40+ years working on bikes I sure as hell wished I'd bought it 39 years ago.


The overhead cantilever hoist I built comes in handy also.

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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice i wish i had a place to put that but i dont..
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Purpony
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hang mine as well. Put put a big angle iron up in my attic and put 2 eyelets up through my sheetrocked ceiling. I can hang my bike with 2 ratchet straps with no problems. Works great. Or you could use an engine hoist also.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scissors jack requires little force to take pressure off the hex bolts in the shock.

When I did mine last Thursday, I adjusted the scissors jack with a single hand to adjust the height.

As stated by 99_x1 above, there is still three points of contact using the scissors jack method. And, it's easily adjustable no matter where you happen to be, at home or on the road.

Easily a one-man operation!

(Message edited by two_seasons on June 06, 2011)

(Message edited by two_seasons on June 06, 2011)
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

<-- has garage envy.
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