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Dfruit
| Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 08:29 pm: |
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I have a X1 with S1 little tank and single seat tail section I just fabed up the spacers to mount the Xb swingarm to the my tuber just wanted to see if anyone would be interested in the spacers maybe Ill start making them I will try to post pics if interested |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 09:24 pm: |
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Pics would be nice... |
Maru
| Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 09:25 pm: |
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Id like to see what you have. |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 07:33 am: |
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Yes lets see some pics please!? are they like the ones in this thread? http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/224086.html And does someone knows if the bracket that holds the swingarm in and also bolted to motor are the same for all tubers??
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Capital_g
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 07:45 am: |
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How about some pics of the entire bike? |
Guell
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 09:19 am: |
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To use a xb swingarm you have to modify the passenger footpeg brackets |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 09:26 am: |
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It,s been done before! http://ausbuells.informe.com/forum/buell-tech-f4/j oesbuell-project-t107.html |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 01:21 pm: |
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Joe was kind enough to post a detailed description of his excellent work to upgrade his Buell S1 with an XB swingarm and ZTL front-end too. One of the best threads in Old School. |
No_rice
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 01:27 pm: |
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joe's bike makes me drool everytime i see it. if he'd get ride of it and i could swing it id ship the thing over here to add to my collection |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 01:29 pm: |
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That isn't even the main thread for Joe's effort. Here's his complete Buell S3 to S1 to S1-XB thread. |
Dfruit
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 01:59 pm: |
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Yes I know of Joes buell its a very nice build and no my spacers are different they are less complicated with these spacers it bolts right in they are machined to accept the factory isolators and the rod that bolts threw the swingarm I will be posting pics today |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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Tim, Every time I see it I start thinking about revising the tuber frame to optimally match the newer, much improved rear isolator arrangement, and to optimally support the rear shock mount. Then I think that it would make sense to just use an entire new 2010 XB engine/transmission assembly, just modified to work with tuber mounts. Then I think, nah, go with the XBRR engine & powertrain. If H-D had any sense, they'd do all that and call it the "H-D Sport". They won't. They're idiots. So then I wonder what it would take to get such a machine into production. Wanna help? |
Blake
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 02:11 pm: |
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David, An S1 tank? What did you do for fuel pump? Convert to carburetor? XB swingarm: What did you do for rear shock mount? How are your spacers simpler than Jodie's? Did his swingarm not just bolt right in too? |
Foximus
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 05:25 pm: |
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Blah... But its such a hideous swingarm.. Just like all XB stuff, it looks like it was casted in a toy factory. |
Dfruit
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:08 pm: |
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Here are some pics still working on upper shock mount would like to make it bolt on also but still working on that as for the spacers my spacers are one piece design joes are two piece he machined a piece that has to be pressed into the swingarm to hold the bearings and used stock spacers and nothing is wrong with his design I just made it easier
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Guell
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:44 pm: |
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im def interested. Would this work on a bike that doesnt have the removable iso plate? Ie a m2? |
Petethekiller
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 08:34 pm: |
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I'll buy some too... |
Rick_a
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 09:36 pm: |
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I'm with Foximus. XB stuff looks and works good on XB's, but there's seemingly very little to gain doing these front and rear end swaps on tubers. The geometry is better beforehand. It also ruins their new-classic-like looks. But, to each their own. |
Foximus
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 10:29 pm: |
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F ckin A Bubba. |
Guell
| Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 10:58 pm: |
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actually, i dont think i want to start hacking too much on my m2, ill just stick with the xb wheel spacers i have to run it on a tuber swingarm |
Joesbuell
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 12:59 am: |
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I'll chime in here David my spacers are in fact one piece, there machined from a single billet of alloy. My design also makes bearing replacement and adjustment as per the original and use OEM bearings not the XB's bearings.......Which will be unobtainable in the near future! lol |
Foximus
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:44 am: |
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Still doesnt make harley parts less ugly. LoL |
Joesbuell
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:50 am: |
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Don't know what that's supposed to mean? Ya lost me! I must have missed something..... |
Foximus
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:55 am: |
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LoL nothin. Just jokin. But seriously, I dont think you could pay me to get rid of my old faithful box steel swingarm. |
Blake
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 04:35 am: |
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Thanks Jodie. I appreciate all the documentation and work you did, never once looking to sell anything. David, I'm less than impressed with your thread here due to the inaccuracy in information (see Jodie's correction above), and the apparent intent to sell stuff. On BadWeB, that privilege is reserved for the sponsors who fund the ongoing operation and maintenance of the place. But back to your build... I'm still wondering about the use of an S1 fuel tank with a fuel-injected X1 engine. How you working that? I think the XB swingarm, by eliminating the under-seat oil tank and moving the rear shock up to conventional location is a winner all around. I sure don't appreciate the snarky comments. You don't like it, fine. Move one then. |
Guell
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 09:35 am: |
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finally, someone else who likes the boxed steel swingarm! I am going to have mine braced, kinda like what rick_a did, but i dont want mine extended. They look good that way and arnt the typical cast aluminum upgrade. |
Foximus
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 02:58 pm: |
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F'in A bubba. High Five. |
Dfruit
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 05:44 pm: |
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By no means did I am aim to bag anybody I like your build joe and thats where I got the idea and as far as doing all this work I just like the looks of the swingarm on these bikes thats what I like and as far as the spacers on joes bike they look and perform awesome I am sure I was just stating that yours is a two piece design you made a housing for the s1 bearing to be pressed into the xb swingarm and then have the spacer on top of that so thats where I got the two piece from so joe youre bike is awesome and I am just have fun building my buell I just wanted to see if there was anyone else who liked these kinda swaps and if you dont to each there own |
Joesbuell
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 07:27 pm: |
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David you've still got my design wrong bud, theres no spacer so don't know where you got that idea from.... My design removes the XB bearings and alloy spacer(you may be referring to) the adapters press into where the XB's bearings were then you use new tube frame swing arm bearings and seals which are the same as the steering head bearings. Which makes it a synch to buy replacement parts, so if I ever sold it, old mate who buys it isn't scratching his wondering why he can't get his bearings to fit. Jodie |
Dfruit
| Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 09:03 pm: |
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As for the bearing there easy to find at any local parts store but the piece in the middle is what I am talking about plus youre machined housing for the bearings my design is just the piece in the middle extended I will post pics
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Whitetrashxb
| Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 03:41 pm: |
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to answer brother in buells question: I'm pretty sure the swingarm mount block changed with the swingarm in '99.... |
Dfruit
| Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 04:47 pm: |
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I will post pics of the s1 fuel injected tank later but i just mounted the x1 pump in it and blocked of the original petcock |
Deanh8
| Posted on Monday, January 24, 2011 - 11:41 pm: |
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will these work on a 2000 M2? with the newer swing arm mount? email me please, ill take a set deanh8@gmail.com |
Deanh8
| Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 10:49 pm: |
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bump |