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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can anyone on here help me out? its winter time already, which means winter project, and i have nothing to build off of so far.

my frame has a serious case of road rash and its unrepairable (imo)

just looking for another one so i can get it powdered, and start tearing my s1 down piece by piece, get the pieces powdered, and make the switch-a-roo

and replace a few broken, worn items, and repaint my plasttics while im at it.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You just missed one that went for $150 on eBay. One bid.

Methinks you aren't searching hard enough...

(Message edited by brinnutz on October 28, 2010)
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and weld in that extra frame brace member on front left side that the X1's have, while you're at it?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the frame bent or otherwise structurally un-sound? Or...just ugly?

If it's just ugly...go old-school and lead it. Fill the scrapes with lead, shape 'em the way they should be, and put 'er back on the road.
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"and weld in that extra frame brace member on front left side that the X1's have"

The extra frame brace on the left side was on every tuber from 99 on ...

Like I said .. Don't know if it would suit your situation but I replied in the classifieds ... Old Pro Thunderbike S1 frame sitting in my garage ..
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=17259,17315,23 628,23670,26328,26637,26653,26761,26849,26869,2712 6,27163,27182,27284,27293&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=Bu ell+S1+frame+for+sale&cp=23&qe=QnVlbGwgUzEgZnJhbWU gZm9yIHNhbGU&qesig=z_FjNHxGeGpE492rrNk4vA&pkc=AFgZ 2tnimtVCQIiAR8oi2APWCha3sC803oV1zV8DBoieGS8KwDkT9p -7N5TFO8rANiIm2CyQVNZ50BE5Vsrk-Nspt_HFNZCEag&pf=p& sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=Buell+S1+frame+for+s ale&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=ddfbf15c2e2f4021
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i found that guy, recongized him from a vw forum i frequent. slc4me - slc is a VW corrado SLC... so i searched for his screen name on the vwvortex and found him, sent him a pm.

well see tho, the add is from 2007.
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

explain to me about this frame brace in more detail?

and dangit! i hadnt checked ebay in about 2 weeks, i had given up on it because its always the same list of blast, xb, and one or two cyclone frames an the occasional x1 frame. never had i seen a s1 frame : (
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SNY2Rftjmg0/TMmyjMl04aI/AAAA AAAAAiE/RgXK1gLTWKk/s640/IMG955440.jpg

Take a look at the front you'll see the brace .. That piece was missing on the pre 99 tubers ..

The frame I have has that piece added as well
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Brian, did you mention to him that that S1 frame can run the 99 and up under the frame headers? ; )
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Tattoodnscrewd
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup I did sir ... Been replying over in the classifieds ..

I almost feel guilty offering up that frame though knowing it has a lil bit of a history what with the different riders that were on it and that it was the original Buell Pro Thunderbike model - this frame was built as a race only .. No VIN stamp, nothing... But Jason and I got our hands on a super clean S3 frame .. Which we can title ... Means much less fab work for us on the drag bike ... Other than lowering the front fairing to work with clip-ons .., I love it - an S3 with clip-ons and wheelie bars ... Haha
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is the brace that lower front smaller diameter tube, runs above the front of the primary cover?


how hard is it to find someone that does that lead filling you mentioned? i dont think my frame is tweaked, i mean the bike rides straight as an arrow, but it has a bad gash in the side of it, the tubes are pinched and scratched pretty good

obviously a repair would be the the least amout of work and possibly the cheapest
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Fahren
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lead filling is standard "old skewl" auto body repair, but it can be a bitch to work, and you can't really sand it. I don't see any reason not to use a good (and that means "not Bondo") polyester body filler, a 2-part like Rage Extreme, or similar. As long as the marks are cosmetic and the fill does not have any structural duty to do (neither lead nor plastic are structurally up to it), then you should be fine.
I'd be a bit concerned about the pinched tubes. Any pix?

(Message edited by fahren on October 29, 2010)
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can do it your self ,maybe you practice first on a piece of tin or iron pipe ,
And take your time for it!!

http://www.ehow.com/how_4693422_do-lead-body-work. html
http://www.tptools.com/p/464,201_Starter-Auto-Body -LeadandSolder-Kit.html
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://streetrodder.automotive.com/79612/0807sr-ap plying-lead-body/index.html
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

will i take powder coating? i dont think a polyester filler will :P not sure about lead
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are some ugly marks. Maybe Purpony can say if lead will hold up to the powder process, he's built himself a oven recently. Perhaps he'd be willing to put a lead weight in the next batch he bakes to see if it holds shape?

Yup, the lower tube above the primary:



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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

clean up the metal fill it in with a mig gun
Grind to shape and powerdcoat it no worrys
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ken's suggestion is mine as well ; ).
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Blks1l
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would weld it as well, and blend it all back in, you would never know.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and I wouldn't worry about strength, with the gusset right there. You should be just fine strength-wise. Fill/weld/whatever to your tastes, refinish it...and keep riding : )
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Brinnutz
Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And here's another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1996-Buell-S1-Lightning-Frame- Swing-Arm-Oil-Tank-/140472718923?pt=Motorcycles_Pa rts_Accessories&hash=item20b4d3964b
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Huck_farley
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saw a Lightning frame on Daytona Craigslist, Nov. 2.
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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here is a pic of it, any idea what year?
http://images.craigslist.org/3n23kc3o45Y65Q65T6a9s 2619e1b8a1c414ae.jpg
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Guell
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that sure looks like a m2 frame to me
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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the help, that one on ebay is perfect!
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