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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if I can trade out my S2 rear caliper for the caliper off of a '99 S3? I know the carriers are different, can I do it if I change carriers also? The S2 is parts# 44087-98Y caliper with 44089-94YA carrier. The S3 is 44087-98Y and that includes the carrier.

Shane
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Essmjay
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is all I have been able to gather using a number of different searches.
This one was from Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 02:32
"As all my experience is with S-2's I am ignorant when it comes to later tuber stuff. Will the later style rear caliper/mount retro to an early tuber and vice versa?
Nissin to Brembo or Brembo to Nissin??"

He got no reply that I can find.
Then there is this exchange-

"Guell

Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 08:02
Will a nissin rear cylinder for the rear brake work with the brembo rear caliper?

Im curious because i have some footpeg relocators that wont work with the current rear cylinder.

Brinnutz
You could always change the whole setup.

I have a rear nissin and mount I will sell ya cheap.

Littlebuggles

Brin offers a good suggestion, cheap is good. I've also pm'd you another idea I had about the whole thing."

These were the only hits i got that seemed to bear on the subject at hand.----So maybe it is possible to swap, but I would have to change the master cylinder as well?

This is all because my Brembo rear caliper is defunct and I cannot find any rebuild kit for it, but my '99 S3 parts bike has a new rear Nissan caliper I can use if it will work.

Anybody have advice?

Shane
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Guell
Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i dont know anymore than i did, if they will mount to the steel swingarm or not.
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really cant help you. On my RS I converted to a PM 4-pot and used the PM hanger. On my S1 I made my own hanger for a Brembo 2-pot from a Ducati
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry to hijack for a minute...

Loki, did you use the stock master cylinder on that 4-pot PM conversion. I have one to install yet, but haven't gotten around to attaching new line and new m/c yet. Just wanted to double check.

/hijack
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Essmjay
Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just realized I had the part number wrong on the s2 caliper.

The S2 is parts# 44087-94Y caliper with 44089-94YA carrier. The S3 is 44087-98Y and that includes the carrier.

Also- here is a handy price guide.
http://www.kabalis.com/Buell/info/HD_Buell_retail_ price_book.pdf

I am going to go ahead and try the swap.
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S2pengy
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just to throw something else out there.... Somewhere I remember reading about using a Buell Blast front caliper but I have looked and can't not find it....
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A very timely thread. I have the S3 rear caliper and mount and need a S2 one. I was going to try and use it. I know the front will not work but would be very interested if a Blast front caliper works. I may just try to find one.

Frank
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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going to try to do it today Frank. The sticky part is I only have one bike lifting spot, and I need to swap the caliper mount from the s3 to the s2, pulling the rear wheels off and back on with both bikes to get the caliper mount swapped. I guess this means my '99 s3 is becoming an official parts bike.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shane, I think you can tell how I supported mine in with a ladder and some tie down straps from this picture.



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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a hook on the beam holding up my garage, then I use straps and a comealong to lift. But I can only do one bike at a time. Right now I have the caliper and hanger off of the s3 and am trying to put it onto the steel swingarm on the S2, and it doesn't seem that it is going to work. I am going to fiddle with it some more, but it is binding and being non-cooperative.
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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update- I have the s2 put together with the s3 Nissan caliper and hanger. It seems that it just might work. let you know later.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope it works out Shane.
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Loki
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brin,

I just used the stock master cyl
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Brinnutz
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what I figured. Thanks.
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Essmjay
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, so it all went together ok, if you do this you need to use the banjo bolt that goes with the s3 nissan caliper as it has a different thread pitch than the brembo banjo bolt. Now I am just having trouble getting it bled. You would think I would be a wiz at it after spending a month bleeding the front, but so far all my tricks are getting me nowhere. I can't get any pressure built up. It seems that the s2 master cylinder should work fine, it is new and both calipers are single pot. I will just keep at it.
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bench bleed it. You should be able to remove the entire system and find something the thickness of a rotor to put in between the pads. Put the caliper uphill and the ms down
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