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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm hoping that there is! I have managed to strip the Phillips head screws on the front brake caliper cover. (2000 S3T)
Has anyone ever done this? If so, what did you do to get them out?
Thanks all.
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Terrycoxusa
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take a small grinder with a cutoff wheel and cut a slot for a regular screwdriver, then loosen it with an impact wrench
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Slayer5690
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just get a screw remover kit

(Message edited by slayer5690 on October 12, 2010)
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F_skinner
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there anyone as dumb as me?

Yes, I am.... I did what Terry said....
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Buell_bert
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did cut a slot with a die grinder but used a BFH and a smaller chisel to loosen it and then used a regular screw driver. Them little buggers are really stubborn sometimes. Put the chisel in the outer end of the groove and hammer it around. Rightey tightey, leftey loosey. (BFH= Big F'n Hammer) Well that's what worked for me and of course good luck there.
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Fasted
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not only can we find some who will make us feel brilliant in this forum, we can also find the clever ones who can help with our mistakes. don't know about you, but i don't know how well i would do working on my bike with only the fsm. there are so many people on here with THE KNOWLEDGE and the desire to help.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys,
Now I feel even dumber after reading my original post.
It should read, "Front Brake Master Cylinder Cover"
Man, when you're on a roll, you're on a roll!
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No matter where it is, I'd do what Terry sez. We've all been there, and then some. Thanks, Fasted, for putting it so well.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry I read it to quick. I thought you were trying to get the front rotor off. OH well. Actually you just need a smaller hammer now. But I still feel like ???
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Azrael_cervale
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've done that in the past and the Craftsman type screw extractors worked for me they look like drill bit tips, and actually start shaving out the screw, but will eventually dig in and unscrew it. Just start with the smallest and change after it smooths out the phillips section.
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4traxx
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just drilled the screw head off . removed the cover & took the rest out with vicegrips .
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Guys,
Anyone happen to know the size, pitch, or part number for these fasteners? Any suggestions for a better one?
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Fasted
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try stock fasteners with an improved removal system (top quality phillips screwdriver [or impact driver] in the proper size).
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fasted,
Thanks for finding a polite way to remind me to use the right size bit next time ! lol
Dumb doesn't have to be forever.
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Fasted
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have made more mistakes in 45 years of wrenching than you can even imagine.....i like it when others help me with my goofs or ignorance. unfortunately, screwin' up seems to be a big part of learning. i just try to not repeat my errors
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Britchri10
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My father is a toolmaker, by trade. He taught me a lot about wrenching etc'. He always said that if you aren't making any mistakes you are probably not trying hard enough. Mess it up once, that's OK, Twice is iffy, same mistake 3 times and you are not learning!
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Metric screws from Japan that look like "Phillips" screws may not actually be "Phillips" pattern.

They are usually Japanese Industry Standard (J.I.S.)that were designed not to "cam out" during manufacturing operations like Phillips.

I worked on Honda and Yamahas for many years before I found out why my junk tool kit screwdrivers fit better than my Snap-On Phillips screwdrivers.

Google "Japanese Industry Standard" for details.

J.I.S. screwdrivers are available from many sources and are well worth the investment.
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave,
Thanks for the tip. I tried every bit I had on those screws before I tried to loosen them. The one that I thought gave the best bite was the one that screwed them up. (I know a good mechanic doesn't blame his tools, but no one has ever accused me of being a good mechanic!)
I'll look up the J.I.S.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about using a reverse flute drill ???
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Newbuellertoo
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Buellistic,

Haven't gotten around to doing anything with it yet. Going to part of the Winter entertainment package.
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Totalnutah
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"he who never made a mistake
never did anything"

we all have to learn somewhere
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