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Court
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Adpaters to allow you to go both ways?

We really need to go racing again and get you JB2 and Paul back together.'s been too loong!

Eccccccccccccck
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S2pengy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the 8 pin ignition module it only uses 7 pins soooo you can change the connector... The color code is the same.... Note the pins and recepticals are not the same but it isn't hard to change it over....
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Phat_j
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well the first time is an issue, second time is a problem..... has anyone else had the left handlebar on their s2 seperate at the welds? had this happen about a year ago, got a used one to replace it, and luckaly had the first re welded (used it today) and today the second did the exact same thing.... both left hand bars... anybody?
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like you have 2 sets of the RECALLED touring bars,they were recalled because of the possibility that the bar would separate---sound familiar.Do a search as we posted pics of the proper bars.
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Phat_j
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not touring bars..... stock low bars...
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S2pengy
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took my low bars off as soon as the touring bars came out.. So no I have not had that happen....
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Phat, it's more common for the "early" taller (touring) bars to separate, more leverage on them, but the shorter bars are assembled the same way and thus can have the same failure. i THINK this is the first time i've heard of a shorter bar letting go, tho.

ride to lean,
FB
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any taller touring bars for sale out there? thanks, REX
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Briarpatch
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Art - I have 4MZRT11HSX3000903 built Feb 95. Yellow Jacket pearl. Please add me to the list. I think I'm the second owner but I can't find any info on signature stuff for my bike (if it qualifies). THANKS to the folks who post to the most entertaining and informative web site I've found! - Stan



edited by briarpatch on May 12, 2004
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sounds like we should have an S-2 Buell gathering one of these days. That would be cool, huh? invite ERik , court, dave, and all of the early buell folks to attend.......rex
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Phillyblast
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Briar - I'm pretty sure _all_ S2 and S2Ts qualify. I don't have any of the sig stuff for mine, either (built 12/94, Yellow Jacket Pearl).
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Court
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All S-2 and S2-T models were included in the "Signature Series" program. I have a copy of the original letter, sent to all registered owners, I'd be pleased to post sometime.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Please do.
I think you did once before, but that was a few computers ago.
Thanks.
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Doughnut
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone be willing to let me send them my vin so that they could translate for me which number and plate I'm looking for?
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doughnut, maybe this will help:

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edited by jerry_haughton on May 14, 2004
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Doughnut
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, I think if I figure right, I need plate # 147 / 200. How does one find their plate?
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Lornce
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Firemanjim and S2pengy,

Thanks for the info on the ignition modules. Sounds reassuringly straight forward.

Ferris,

Thanks for posting re. the Sig Series info, should clear up lots of confusion. Your S2 pics in Badweb's cool pic file are some of the best I've seen of the early Buells. The Mt. Rainer shot is terrific. Perfectly captures the essence of motorcycle touring.

Phatj,

Zing me a ping re. the S2 forks. Thanks.

Buell on,
Lornce
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lornce, thank you very much.

FB
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Rex
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the supertrap version, what did the custom marine look like? the new exhausts? rex
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Doughnut
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where is everyone? Nothing to talk about? Here, I'll start. What do you all love about your S2(T)? What in your mind makes it better then the "newer" Buells? I love the fact that is a rarity among the rare.
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Buellerthanyou
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There I was, just sitting out in my garage staring in rapture at my Black Sapphire Pearl beauty and then I come in the house and log on to find this message. I don't think the S2s are better than the newer Buells; I think that ALL Buells are better than each other! They each have their distictive style and personality. I love my S2 because it is somewhat rare (and getting rarer every day, judging by those I see being parted-out on Ebay, etc.), and it is also the most "Harley" of the Buells. By that I mean that it is the first of the Buells that came about with H-D having a stake in the success of the company and also that the powertrain is very "Sportster-like". Of couse the handling quickly reveals that there is also much about it that is very "un-Harley", not to mention the sensuous bodywork that is nicer looking than any current H-D (or Buell, for that matter) product, IMHO. It sort of looks, shakes and sounds like a bike that might not handle that well and be hard to ride, but then you lean it waaaaaaayyyy over in a corner and it is rock solid. It strikes me as being paradoxical; kinda obvious low-tech in harmony with certain high-tech aspects, actually complimenting each other and working very well as a whole. Maybe it's Yin and Yang all rolled up in one motorcycle...plus, chicks dig it!

HellBuelly J
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/

"Avarice, envy, pride,
Three fatal sparks, have set the hearts of all
who don't ride an S2, On Fire!"
--Dante Buellighieri
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Kevyn
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was out riding yesterday and it all came back.

Those massive flywheels just heavin' away, the rumbling rolling churning motor at a fast idle.

visceral.

That solid chunk into first gear. That smooth roll down the asphalt. No need to rev it up, it just accelerates easily through the gears pulling all the way without a twitch. Soakin' up the cracks and crevices effortlessly.

An easy push on the bar and it leans on over. I'd forgotten how much fun it was to wheel through some curves. Twist it on and look where you want it to go.

Around town it was just too freakin' cool to wheel through traffic. That S2 torque is so relaxed and waiting to hook up. MmmmHmmm.

Out on the highway it rolls along effortlessly. Nice acceleration, great braking, smooth ride with just enough vibe and rumble to let you know you're riding a refined motorcycle. Really has a classic feel. Nothing like the slick and silky smooth new bikes. The S2 just ooozes character yet it's a very capable machine in many different situations.
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a hell of a time rationalizing how I feel about my S2. I mean, let's face it, the bike is big, heavy, and slow. How can something like that be enjoyable to ride?

And yet somehow, when I go pick a bike to ride out of the stable, I seem to gravitate toward it. Why? It just kind of fits like an old pair of jeans. The riding position is perfection. It's stable and steers nice, it almost seems to know where I want to go without me telling it. Somehow those heavy flywheels, which are always apparent, complement the stable handling, taking the rough edge off the motor while giving just enough vibration feedback to be pleasant.

Hell, I don't know. It's just a pleasant bike to ride. I guess I don't always want to ride a scary fast bike. My M2, with over 120hp at the back wheel, can be a little scary at times. It's a nasty, brutal motorcycle, hits you like a ton of bricks when you crank it on, launches the front wheel at will, and you've got to pay attention to it. Fun in it's own way, but you're never quite sure who's riding who. The S2 is the polar opposite, calm and collected, stable, making pleasant and mild sounds, just out and out enjoyable to ride, and you feel a nice harmony with the bike when you ride it. Sluggish by comparison, but somehow it all just works together and you don't really mind.

I've got a 1250 kit and a set of 2004 XL1200R heads (same as XB) and "E" grind cams for it, just sitting on the shelf. It's only got 87hp at the moment and I'm figuring on taking it to near 100. But I'm a little afraid to do it out of fear of changing it's character too much.
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron; I really like that description - I recognize a lot of my own thoughts in there. Oh, and please keep us posted on those motor mods you describe. Just what I had in mind for my S2. : )

Henrik
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron: If you're afraid of changing the character of yours, maybe I should send you mine!

r-t
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron:

To quote my hero Woz. . . "I love you, Man"

You nailed it.

I can't name the single thing. But, having spent like 18 hours a day for consecutive days, it is THE bike that never fails to make me THRILLED.

Okay...okay....but just one little story....I am headed from Ashville, NC (Honda Hoot) to Calfornia (California Superbike School at Streets of Willow). I've done about 950 of the days leg when I hit Amarillo, TX in the wee hours just as the album hits my favorite part....I ended up riding around Amarillo at 2AM to hear the end of the tape...

The is, in my opinion, no bike that TALKS to a rider like the S2.

Thanks for making my palms sweaty!

Court
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,
How does one go about receiving technical support for a Nallin 1250 kit? I had one installed back in January and am having issues with detonation, and oil consumption. I've emailed tech support through the website but have never received a response.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,I think you will still enjoy the S-2 with the added power.Mine is all back in sheep's clothing again.I took it out for the first time for the Buell No Whinin' Tour and it was a blast.It is all of those things you guys have described,heavy flywheels,etc,but the thrill of running through the gears(all 6) running away from Bob G and co on their Triumphs and Kawi's was some fun along the CA coast.You still don't have to rev the motor to go,it just get's there sooo much quicker now.Still comfy and intuitive,but with a real Bad attitude---
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Aaron,

That was fast. Justin just emailed me.
I appreciate the quickness of your response.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,
Although my M2 doesn't have the same punch as yours, you hit the nail on the head.
I smile every time I walk into the garage and see the S2 sitting there.

Both are great bikes to have in the stable.
"Some times you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't..."

My S2 has over 30,000 on it, I'm almost afraid of what a leakdown test will show.
I'm not sure what I will do when the time comes for a top end.
I really like it's current personality, I don't think I would want to change it too much.

Maybe I'll take the M2 top end and put it on the S2 and go a bit crazy on the M2.
Time will tell.....

Brad

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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed that my S2 "bleeds" a little gas around the filler area and where the tube comes up and out. It is on the outer edge of the plastic that is around the metal. Can I just silicon this? If not, what do I need to do?
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doughnut; I'd suggest taking off the filler ring and reseal the assembly. I think they used Yamabond or some such nasty compound to seal. The ring comes off easy, and then you can just apply a sealer of sorts and re-install. That should do the trick. If the vent fitting is bleeding as well, check and see if there is a bad o-ring there?? Can't remember exactly how that is sealed?

Henrik
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S2pengy
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The orginal stuff is Hylomar developed by Rolls Royce for their jet engines... It is blue with a waxy feel... You can find it at most good auto parts stores.... Coat both surfaces before assembly and remove the excess with acetone.. Good stuff for oil and gas, it never completely dries....
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Buellerthanyou
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So there I am, staring lovingly at my S2 once again, when I notice an unsightly blemish. What's this? Oil on the bottom of my shock? Get out the trusty "Snakelight" and look closer aaaand...CRAP! Looks like I gots dem ole incontinent shock blues. It's one of the first recall shocks with the longer rod, but apparently never got the SRP "fix" (no collar). Can't afford the Works or Penske that I want right now...any chance that since it is the older recall shock, that H-D will warranty it for the newer, shorter one? Opinions? Experiences? Alternatively, anybody got a good S2 shock of any description (WP, old Showa, new Showa, Works, Penske, Hyperpro) that they'd get rid of cheap?

The Road. Gotta stay on the road...must..not....falter......

HB Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hellbuellies/

"Fasten your seat belt, it's going to be a bumpy ride..."
--HellBette Davis
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

same thing about my S-2....I love to look at it...it has really grown on me....So far the only thing that I do not really care for is the side stand...other than that...you are right...It is so smooth, handles good, sounds good, rides good....a great ride experience to me.....mine is all stock motor wise....sometimes I like the more milder motor as compared to my M-2.

The last time I rode over to modesto, my shock started leaking too. I heard that replacing of the shocks is over....so I too, have been looking around for shocks, but I do not have the money for a penske, etc...will keep looking...I find myself just standing in the garage looking at it beauty....red tank fairing and tail section , against the white frame and wheels.....very cool site........

That is all I can do till the shoulder heals back from surgery.....rex
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dough

If you do wind up using hylomar, apply it extremely sparingly . . . . H is right on the money, it never dries . . . . which means it will ooze from between the joints it's applied to for a long time . . . . it'll come up from around the gas tank/ring junction, around the screws holding the ring to the tanks, get on your tank bag, migrate to your leathers, get tracked inside the house, jump onto the kitchen cabinet, wander into the family room . . . . . .

like I said, extremely sparingly . . . .if you think there's hardly any film of the material on the mating surfaces, and it can't possible be enough to seal it, you've likely put on a little too much
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does one clean off/remove this continuous ooze of Hylomar??

Henrik
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik,read above post from Todd,he mentions acetone---
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S2pengy
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As far as my feelings about the S2 I always remember Court stating that if you look at the bike from the side it resembles a curvaceous reclining woman and was designed that way!!!!! The bike gives me alot of sensual feelings as well as visual.. The way you fit in it and not on it..
OHHHHHHHHH need to go to the garage and caress my babies....
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Henrik,read above post ...

Well, duh. Thanks Fireman and Todd.

Henrik
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