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Flyingfinn
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The front forks seals are shot on my S3.

On Ebay there is a new set of new SHOWA forks for $249 and a new set of WP forks for $249 .

Is there an advantage to the WP over the SHOWA ..?

(Message edited by flyingfinn on July 27, 2010)
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why pay $250 for new forks when you can just replace the fork seals and maybe the bushings if the teflon coating is starting to wear off?

Both are good forks for regular riding; your shocks should be fine if you renew the seals and change oil.
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Dinuns1
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

because forks depending on milage began to wear and then the hardening goes and you end up doing seals and they leak , so you just wasted 50 in parts a few hours labor when you could buy tubes and do the job once ... although with those sitting round for that long im not sure how plyable the seals are . has any one got em and run em yet ?
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46champ
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quote: because forks depending on milage began to wear and then the hardening goes and you end up doing seals and they leak

Maybe at about a quarter of a million miles
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Terrycoxusa
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would only change forks if they got bent, seals are cheap.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

spend a little more and get race tech springs and a gold valve and have forks that are superior to new.
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Dfbutler
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+2 on Scott's post. did both on my bike and it was a MAJOR improvement. Unless you're 150 lbs, you're way undersprung.
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But if it's just weight, a heavier fork oil can make a difference, too.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heavier fork oil increases the available damping, but it does nothing to increase spring rate or set sag.

The fluid level can be increased as this "stiffens" the "air spring" that is over the oil, but this does not help during smaller deflections.

What the gold valve does for you cannot be faked and is sublime....
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Redefine420
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard great things about the race tech springs and the gold valves, just like everyone has mentioned. So maybe you should look into that.

I just bought the Showas on ebay your looking at, its a good deal for brand new forks. The major difference between them is the Showas have adjustments for compression and rebound on each tube. With the WP's, one tube is compression the other is rebound. The description in the ebay ad says the opposite.
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Thomas_cronan
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have rebuild mine on my 99 s3 and no problems so far and that was 2.5 years ago and 10,000 miles
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