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Madrab
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 12:52 pm: |
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Is there one? & if so, where is it? ive had a look but unless im missing something i have no ides where it is |
Jramsey
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 01:04 pm: |
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No choke with fuel injection. Cold start enrichment is controlled by the ecm via sensors. |
Madrab
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 01:16 pm: |
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How effective is the system? It can get fairly cold here in the mornings? (its the first bike ive had that doesnt have a choke) |
Jramsey
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 01:23 pm: |
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In proper tune it works well and won't foul the plugs or load up unlike a choke that was left on for to long. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 02:06 pm: |
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for a FI X1, start and let run till warm, do not blip the throttle, do not rev the engine! |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 02:36 pm: |
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and NO throttle to start. Make a fist, point a finger at the start button. That's what I have to do for myself when I go from a lot of time on my carb tubers to an EFI bike... hey...never said I was smart, lol... |
Madrab
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 02:58 pm: |
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no throttle at start at all? ie let the starter run the bike for a couple of seconds? ps thanks for all the advice |
Spiderman
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 03:41 pm: |
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ie let the starter run the bike for a couple of seconds? You are waiting for the red engine light to go off correct? If you bike isn't firing up within two seconds you may have a fuel delivery problem... |
Ducxl
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 04:07 pm: |
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and NO throttle to start. Make a fist, point a finger at the start button. Good one.That's how my X1 always starts.Baffles me how it settles as easily as it does. |
Madrab
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 05:13 pm: |
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Will try this tomorrow morning Thanks |
Nukeblue
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 10:31 pm: |
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i had a 99 x-1 and a 99 s-3 both of them needed a little throttle once started for ten seconds or so before they would settle & idle on their own. just had to keep it up to about 1300 rpm or so. the xb, that thing will start & do it all on its own |
Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:57 am: |
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If I give my X1 any throttle at all it will not start. "Make a fist, point a finger at the start button" Yep. |
Impala
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 10:58 am: |
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A recall for the X1 was a little dial on the right side that was added to increase the idle speed on cold mornings. During warmer times nothing is needed but when it gets cold mine needs just a little throttle to keep the RPM's around 1k for 10-15 seconds. |
Kalali
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:42 pm: |
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"A recall for the X1 was a little dial on the right side that was added to increase the idle speed on cold mornings." First I hear about such a recall. Do you have more information on this? |
Yo_barry
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:06 pm: |
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Don't know about a recall, but on my 2001 S3T, it doesn't want to keep running when it's cold unless I turn up the idle a little. This is the same FI system as the X1. On the S3, there is an idle speed adjust knob or wheel on the left side about where the petcock would be on a carb bike. |
Impala
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:57 pm: |
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ROUTING SERVICE MANAGER SALES MANAGER PARTS MANAGER LEAD TECHNICIAN TECHNICIAN NO. 1 TECHNICIAN NO. 2 TECHNICIAN NO. 3 TECHNICIAN NO. 4 RETURN THIS TO: INITIAL HERE ©1999 Buell Distribution Corporation GENERAL The purpose of this service bulletin is to inform you of the release of two new kits and to provide installation instructions. Buell Motorcycle Company is offering an improved calibration for 1999 X1 and S3 bikes equipped with Dynamic Digital Fuel Injection (DDFI). The new calibration will improve cold start idle quality and address engine stutter issues. Motorcycles built after April 13, 1999 will already have the new calibration installed. See below for VIN break of vehicles that are equipped with the new calibration from the factory: l X1 World after VIN 4MZSS11J7X3202791 l X1 CA after VIN 4MZSS56J4X3220228 l S3 World after VIN 4MZRS11J8X3000802 l S3 CA after VIN 4MZRS56J3X3020097 Buell Motorcycle Company is also offering a remote idle adjuster cable kit for late 1999 model year DDFI motorcycles that are equipped with an idle adjuster screw. This kit can be ordered to upgrade idle adjuster screw-equipped motorcycles. The ECM recalibration can be performed without installing the remote idle adjuster cable. One multiple use recalibration cartridge is all that is required to reprogram all the motorcycles in your dealership. A kit containing the new calibration cartridge kit and a sample remote idle adjuster kit will be shipped to your dealership beginning on or before May 6, 1999. The kit will consist of: l Recalibration cartridge (Part No. 29653-99Y) l Calibration Labels (10) (Market Specific-See Below) l (Sample) Remote Idle Adjuster Cable Kit (Part No. 56482-99Y) Additional Remote Idle Adjuster Kits (Part No. 56482-99Y) will be available May 6, 1999 and can be ordered free of charge. Additional calibration labels can be ordered free of charge in quantities of 10 labels per sheet using the part numbers below: l US06G (US, Canada, Japan, New Zealand) Part No. 29654-99Y (yellow label). l EC14G (England, Europe) Part No. 29655-99Y (blue label) l AU14G (Australia) Part No. 29656-99Y (orange label) VEHICLES INVOLVED Select 1999 X1 and S3 model Buell motorcycles. DEALER ACTION See below for an overview of the five steps required to complete the installation after recalibration is performed: 1. Install remote idle adjuster cable (select vehicles). 2. Verify Throttle Position Zero (TP0) setting. 3. Set warm idle speed. 4. Verify correct ignition timing (select vehicles) 5. Identify/repair intake leaks (select vehicles) The new calibration is contained in the recalibration cartridge. Installation requires a scanalyzer (Part No. HD-41325) and cable (Part No. HD-42921). It is critical that ALL steps under System Checks be completed to ensure proper operation of the DDFI system with the new calibration. In the interest of customer satisfaction, the new calibration and remote idle adjuster cable can be installed under warranty. Vehicles beyond the warranty period will not require a prior authorization. See CREDIT PROCEDURES. The remote idle adjuster kit includes the cable, spring and cable tie. Installation of this kit is highly recommended and will simplify the warm idle adjustment procedure. Vehicles beyond the warranty period will not require a prior authorization. See CREDIT PROCEDURES. RECALIBRATION PROCEDURE 1. Locate Data Link connector [91] (pin side of 4-place Deutsch). Remove protective plug from open end of Data Link connector. 2. Connect scanalyzer (Part No. HD-41325) with diagnostic application cartridge (Part No. B-41325-99) into scanalyzer to data link connector [91] with cable (Part No. HD-42921). 3. Turn the ignition/light key switch to IGNITION. Turn the handlebar mounted Engine Stop Switch to the RUN position (but do not start the engine). 4. During the next few seconds, the Scanalyzer sequences through a series of screens that reflect a power-on self test, the system copyright, and then an attempt at communications with the ECM. Once communications is established, the Diagnostic Menu appears on the Scanalyzer data display. 5. Start engine and bring temperature to a minimum of 265° F (129.4° C). 5 SERVICE BULLETIN B-017 May 6, 1999 NEW DDFI CALIBRATION AND REMOTE IDLE ADJUSTER KITS 2 of 5 B-017 6. With engine idling and scanalyzer connected, select mode #3, Data Monitor, and print the data or copy the information on the scanalyzer data sheet provided. This provides a record of starting conditions if further diagnosis is needed. 7. Turn motorcycle off. 8. Remove diagnostic application cartridge and insert scanalyzer Recalibration Cartridge Part No. 29653-99Y included with kit into scanalyzer. 9. Turn the ignition/light key switch to IGNITION. Turn the handlebar mounted Engine Stop Switch to the RUN position (but do not start the engine). 10. See Figure 3. From the Diagnostic Menu, press the number “1” key to view the software version code listed under the System ID. Verify that the software version code displayed on the scanalyzer matches the market codes listed below: l BUEGC0B0 A - US, California, Canada, Japan, New Zealand l BUEGC0B0 B - Europe, England l BUEGC0B0 C - Australia 11. See Figure 3. Return to Diagnostic Menu of scanalyzer. From the Diagnostic Menu, press the number “2” key to begin reprogramming the ECM. 12. A screen will then appear on the scanalyzer “ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO REPROGRAM THE ECM WITH (calibration number)?” One of the calibration numbers below (in bold) will appear. For BUEGC0B0 A the new calibration will be US06G . For BUEGC0B0 B the new calibration will be EC14G . For BUEGC0B0 C the new calibration will be AU14G . Press the number “1” key to begin reprogramming the ECM. l The scanalyzer will show the progress it is making when reprogramming the ECM. Do not disconnect the scanalyzer or interrupt the process until the UPDATE SUCCESSFUL prompt appears in the scanalyzer. 13. Upon completion of the recalibration routine, the scanalyzer will display UPDATE SUCCESSFUL/PRESS MODE. Press the mode key to return to the diagnostic menu. Disconnect the Scanalyzer and turn the Ignition/ Light Key Switch to OFF or LOCK. Turn the handlebar mounted Engine Stop Switch to the OFF position. IMPORTANT NOTE A new calibration label is enclosed with the recalibration kit and must be installed to the ECM to comply with federal regulations. Failure to label recalibrated ECM may result in fines and potential criminal prosecution. 14. See Figure 1. Locate the ECM on the motorcycle. There are two labels on the upper right hand corner of the ECM. The lower label is the calibration label. Remove the old calibration label from the ECM. Leave the top label in place. 15. Locate the new adhesive calibration label that is packaged with the recalibration kit. Remove adhesive backing and install new calibration label to the ECM in the same position that the previous label was in. 16. Perform all steps listed under System Checks. Remote Idle Adjuster Cable Installation NOTE Perform the following procedures according to the guidelines given in the service manual for the model being serviced. 1. Remove seat and fuel tank cover (X1 only) and fuel tank. See appropriate service manual for instructions. 2. See Figure 2. Remove idle adjuster screw and spring from throttle body bracket/stop plate. 3. Install spring to remote idle adjuster cable. 4. Install cable to throttle body bracket. Route cable between cylinder heads to left side of motorcycle. 5. Back out idle adjustment cable, turning knurled end counterclockwise until there is no contact between the tip of the adjustment cable and the throttle cam. Open and close the throttle 2-3 times to verify there is no contact. 6. Install fuel tank and cover (X1 only). See appropriate service manual for instructions and torque specifications. Figure 1. ECM Calibration Label Location (S3 Shown) Figure 2. Idle Adjuster Screw Calibration Label 6929 Stop Plate Idle Adjuster Screw 6811 Spring B-017 3 of 5 Are You Sure You Want to Reprogram the ECM with (cal #- *see note)? Press 1-YES 2-NO Updating ###% Done. Please Wait. Figure 3. ECM Recalibration Routine DIAGNOSTIC MENU 1-SYSTEM ID 2-REPROGRAM MODE Press Key Press Key 2 Press Key 1 The engine must not be running when reprogramming Press MODE. MODE Press Key Engine mistakenly left running. Checksum failure in reprogram file. Press MODE. MODE Press Key S Record Not Valid for this Vehicle. This application only updates revisions A, B or C. Press MODE. MODE Press Key Recalibration Not Valid for this Vehicle. Diagnostic Menu 1-SYSTEM ID 2-REPROGRAM Recalibration Complete. Go to Step 13 on Page 2. Update Failed. Possible Corruption. Please Retry Now. Press MODE. MODE Press Key Update Successful. Press MODE. *NOTE Calibration Numbers: US, California, Canada, Japan, Europe, England: EC14G Australia: AU14G New Zealand: US06G 4 of 5 B-017 System Checks (Required) Verify Throttle Position Zero Setting 1. Back out idle screw until it no longer touches the throttle plate stop. Back out idle screw one to two additional turns. 2. Connect scanalyzer (Part No. HD-41325) to data link connector [91] with cable (Part No. HD-42921). 3. Turn the ignition/light key switch to IGNITION. Turn the handlebar mounted Engine Stop Switch to the RUN position (but do not start the engine). NOTE Observe that step 4 uses the standard diagnostic application cartridge and NOT the recalibration cartridge used previously. 4. Insert diagnostic application cartridge (Part No. B- 41325-99) into scanalyzer. During the next few seconds, the Scanalyzer sequences through a series of screens that reflect a power-on self test, the system copyright, and then an attempt at communications with the ECM. Once communications is established, the Diagnostic Menu appears on the Scanalyzer data display. 5. Press number “3” key (Data Monitor) on scanalyzer and scroll down to last screen which has 3 Throttle Position (TP) readings. a. Open throttle to wide open throttle (95-100% open on first scanalyzer TP reading) and release throttle, allowing it to snap shut. b. Record Throttle Position Sensor voltage reading from scanalyzer (last of the TP readings). c. Repeat steps a and b a total of 3 to 5 times, recording voltage reading after each. l If the readings differ by less than 0.02V, go to step g. l If the readings differ by 0.02V or more, go to Step d. d. Open the throttle then gently force the throttle closed. e. Record Throttle Position Sensor Voltage reading from scanalyzer (last of the TP readings). f. Repeat steps d and e a total of 3 to 5 times, recording the voltage reading after each. l If the readings differ by less than 0.02V, go to step g l If the readings differ by 0.02V or more, replace the throttle body and repeat procedure from Step 1. g. Select mode #7 on scanalyzer menu. Select #1 rezero TPS. A “calibration successful” message will appear. h. Press the mode key to return to Options Data Screen. Scroll to TP degrees. Turn idle adjustment cable clockwise until TP degree reading reaches 5.8. 6. Press the mode key and press #3 to return to the diagnostic menu. Disconnect the Scanalyzer and turn the Ignition/Light Key Switch to OFF or LOCK. Turn the handlebar mounted Engine Stop Switch to the OFF position. Reset Warm Idle Speed 1. Start engine and bring the engine temperature to a minimum of 265° F (129.4° C). 2. Set the warm idle speed at 1000-1100 rpm with the remote idle adjuster cable. NOTE Cold idle start quality is affected by the warm idle setting. The higher the RPM range that the warm idle is set to, the better the cold start idle quality will be. High RPM warm idle speed will also result in cleaner unassisted (not having to roll on the throttle) cold starts. Do not set the warm idle speed above 1100 RPM. The following three procedures, marked with an asterisk, only apply to select vehicles, listed by VIN. Check and write down the VIN number of the vehicle being serviced to determine if next three procedures must be performed. For vehicles not affected, go to Conclusion . *Verify Base Ignition Timing Verify base ignition timing only on select vehicles manufactured before September 30, 1998 listed below: l X1 World: all before VIN 4MZSS11J7X32000762 l X1 CA: all before VIN 4MZSS56J3X3220057 l S3 World: all before VIN 4MZRS11JX3000166 l S3 CA: all before VIN 4MZRS56J6X3020017 See appropriate service manual for instructions. *Check for Intake Leaks Check for intake leaks only on select vehicles manufactured before February 26, 1999 listed below: l X1 World: all before VIN 4MZSS11J3X3202240 l X1 CA: all before VIN 4MZSS56J3X3220172 l S3 World: all before VIN 4MZRS11JXX3020081 l S3 CA: all before VIN 4MZRS56J8X3020080 1. Check for intake leaks around the intake manifold seals at the cylinder head and around the fuel injector o-rings. 2. Replace intake manifold seals and/or injector o-rings as required. *Replace Intake Manifold Seals Replace intake manifold seals only on select vehicles listed below: l X1 World: all before VIN 4MZSS11J0X3201854 l X1 CA: all before VIN 4MZSS56J9X3220158 l S3 World: all before VIN 4MZRS11J1X3000544 l S3 CA: all before VIN 4MZRS56J6X3020062 NOTE The new black viton intake manifold seals (Part No. 26995- 86B) supersede the black hydrin seals (Part No. 26995-86A) and grey viton seals (Part No. 26992-99). 1. Replace previous intake manifold seals with current black viton seals (Part No. 26995-86B). 2. Check for intake leaks around the intake manifold seals at the cylinder head and around the fuel injector o-rings. Replace seals/o-rings as required. B-017 5 of 5 Conclusion 1WARNING After installing seat, pull upward on front of seat to be sure it is locked in position. If seat is loose, it could shift during vehicle operation and startle the rider, causing loss of control. These events could result in death or serious injury. 1. Install seat. 2. Road test vehicle. 3. If problems persist, perform the following: a. Ride motorcycle in closed loop operation (2500- 3500 rpm, approximately 40-60 m.p.h. in 4th or 5th gear with engine under load) consistently for 2-3 minutes. This allows the ECM to learn a new Adaptive Fuel Value (AFV). b. Verify proper fuel pressure (46-53 psi). See Section 4 of appropriate service manual for procedure. 4. Repeat Steps 1-7 of Recalibration Procedure to recapture screen data after riding with system in closed loop (see 2a. above for conditions required to enter closed loop operation). This is especially important to do if performance issues continue after installation. 5. If performance problems continue, contact the Buell Initial Care Line for assistance at tele. (414) 343-7430. Please have the before recalibration and after recalibration captured screen data available when calling. CREDIT PROCEDURE After servicing each vehicle, complete a regular Warranty Claim referencing Service Bulletin B-017 in the “DESCRIPTION OF REPAIR” section. Fill in the rest of the claim as follows: NOTE The following claim filing procedure applies to ALL vehicles serviced for idle adjuster cable installation, recalibration and system checks. * If the vehicle is under warranty, use claim type BMC. If the vehicle is out of warranty, use claim type BGW. No prior authorization is required. After processing of the claim form, you will be credited for the labor. No credit will be issued for parts as they were sent no charge. For vehicles requiring any additional services listed in the bulletin, you must list the additional parts and/or labor as a separate event on the claim. Example: Time and labor code for checking for intake leaks: Time and labor code for replacing intake manifold seals: Time and labor code for verifying ignition timing: CLAIM TYPE BMC, BGW* QTY. 0 EVENT 1, PROBLEM PART NO. 31652-99Y PART DESCRIPTION ECM PRIMARY LABOR CODE 7266 TIME 0.7 hr. (for All Models) CUSTOMER CONCERN 9203 CONDITION CODE 9103 PRIMARY LABOR CODE 3509 TIME 0.1 hr. EVENT 2, PROBLEM PART NO. 26995-86A QTY. 0 PART DESCRIPTION Intake Manifold Seals EVENT 2, ADDITIONAL PART 26995-86B QTY. 2 PART DESCRIPTION Intake Manifold Seals PRIMARY LABOR CODE 3511 TIME (Applicable per model) CUSTOMER CONCERN 9203 CONDITION CODE 9102 PRIMARY LABOR CODE 7522 TIME 0.3 hr. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 02:23 pm: |
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The idle cable wasn't a recall, it was a free upgrade for models that didn't come equipped with one from the factory, so it won't show up if you do a recall search. |
Kalali
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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Thanks for the info. I assume my 2000 X1 (Nov '99 production date) already has the "updated" cold start program (if that's what they actually changed). My stock ECM worked as advertised but I have to keep the throttle open for a minute or so to get a steady idle after I loaded the Race maps. |
Madrab
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 04:56 pm: |
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Tried it this morning & did as you guys said: "Make a fist, point a finger at the start button" worked perfectly, Nice one! |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:01 am: |
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Mine has always had the race ECU. It has always required a tiny bit of throttle to cold start. The system enriches the mixture but is not able to alter its idle speed. Maintain under 2000 RPM until it's warm to avoid popping gaskets! I usually try to hold it steady at 1500 for a minute or so. NO BLIPPING! Mine has started at temps as low as 12F. It never gives me any trouble so long as the battery is full of life, love and happiness. |
Mbsween
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 08:45 am: |
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Mine has 01 has 41K and gets ridden in upstate NY year round. The coldest I've started in is around 0 (F). It has the race ecm and a white brothers pipe, and the force intake. It will start without gas, but will need a bit of throttle to keep it running at those temps. I usually increase the idle via the adjuster from Dec - Feb to help with that issue. Of course I could just be considered mental for riding in those months........ |
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