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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bought this nice 2001 M2 and it has a force winder intake, and borla exhaust and Pazzo Levers, and some nice hand grips machined black billed and rubber in the middle. they are nice, but I am wondering if I have any internals mods or any ecm upgrades is there an easy way. I am used to cars and you can tell if its got cams and head work done on a car, but what about a bike..I thought about looking up part numbers to see if everything was stock??????
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why not assume it's stock? - based on text, your 'new' bike's only been added to, strictly with bolt-ons

an $100 upgraded ECU may say 'Race', or at least have a part # you can verify

the $300 Dynojet Power Commander was a common enhancement - look under seat &/or near ECU

oh - right now, order/copy service & parts manuals for your yr & model
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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats what I am figuring on is basing on it being stock. there is no power commander on it although I would be interested in putting one on it.it only has 2100 miles on it and I was thinking maybe he just used it as a track toy? but itruns amazing, and I cannot wait to add to it. I was hoping to find an online service manual seeing as how it seems there is one for all these other bikes. guess ill keep looking.
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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh and how would there be a power commander on it? it is not FI. its a carb. unless they made something I am not sure of...
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you're in exactly the correct place on this [or any other Buell] board

manuals & most other salient topics are available in KV section, archives & thru search function

for the time being, resist making changes until after making sure the bike's running 100%
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Jim2
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since it has a Forcewinder and a new exhaust they probably at least re-jetted the carb. comes stock with a #42 low jet. Probably has a #45, or #48 by now. If so, the idle speed plug cover has probably been removed.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Best way to see if you have any internal work it to put it on a dyno and like mentioned above you don't have an ECM but you can purchase a selectable curve ignition.
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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know the carb has been worked on but not sure about it getting rejetted. how can I tell what jets the bike has on it??
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it already has forcewinder and borla exahuast and it is running good don't bother with the jets it already been tuned for your add-ons.
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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

alright yeah I thought something was up the other day when I filled up and it started running like a dead dog, and then I figured it was just some bad fuel added some amsoil ethanol treatment and it came back to life.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

/www.americansportbike.com has a service manual for your bike, It will be one of the best purchases that you buy for your bike!
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cheeze Louise

I own an M2 - carbed, natch.....
never even touched a PC3, anyway

please excuse my tuber fueling brain fade
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Pyrobee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

excuse me for being dumb and having a regular brain fade, but what is a PC3 and natch??
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it's all semantics & acronyms - no apologies req'd

"natch" is 40s [50s?] slang for "naturally; of course; it goes almost without saying...."

"PC3" is Dynojet Power Commander III, an add-on fuel injection black box

if you have an M2, just concern yerself with "CV" & "Mikuni"

(Message edited by firstbuell on June 21, 2010)
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It uses Premium gas.

You can check the Low Speed Jet, and the Main Jet to see if the Constant Velocity (CV) carb has been 'tuned'. If you are careful and patient, it can be done by just removing the float bowl from the carb. (Best to do this with the header cold, for reasons that will become obvious.)
The Ignition Module is under the right side of the seat cowling plastic, you might be able to see with a flashlight whether the face of it says Race Use Only, or maybe the Part Number. It's a small black plastic box slightly larger than a pack of smokes. You can tell if it's a Race Ignition module by the Part Number, or if it says Race Use Only.

The cams and heads, I don't know an easy way to tell visually. I would guess the number of M2 owners who do these things are like 3%. M2 is the Torque machine, not the Horsepower machine, like the S3 or X1. One thing to mention, you might be needing intake seals soon, better check into that in the "Knowledge Vault" section soon.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 03:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have parts specific questions regarding your bike you can post up pictures too, many of us can tell you a fair bit about your bike with a couple decent photos.

Regarding the ignition, i believe the earlier Lightning module can also be used on the M2, it would have a black sticker with a yellow lightning bolt, maybe trimmed in blue if memory serves correctly.

Take care of that Borla, those are great sounding, beautiful pipes and can be very difficult to find.

Welcome to the M2 section!
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Pyrobee
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah I will def take care of that exhaust. I actually like the way D&D sounds better honestly... a little louder... shit if someone wants to trade Id be down...but thanks for all the help I am sure I will have lots of questions, and pictures. I wanna make a nice bike to ride in Italy. I will be stationed there for three years so I want something solid, and tight and quick through the twisties..
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well then thanks for your service too.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'Amen' to that - thanks for serving

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Italian Buellers are pretty active online -
once in country, perhaps you'll discover active Buellers there, too

by when will you be stationed in Italy?
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