| Author | Message | ||
     Kalali |
With all these discussions about overfilling the oil tank and oil puking out of the gearbox vent tube, I have been keeping a close eye on a little black tube sticking out of the bottom near the back, right between the shock and the muffler. Never a drop of oil or anything. So last night I figured I will trace the hose just to make sure it is not blocked or twisted or something so I see the little tube end up right in front the gas cap. It turned out to be the gas tank vent tube! Now, before you make fun of me, may be I lost track of the hose somewhere under the bike and traced the wrong hose but I don't see any other hoses/tubes under the bike ('00 X1). So where is this infamous transmission vent tube? Now you can stop laughing...  | ||
| Easy_rider |
It was a good laugh until I realized I don't remember where the hose goes. You'd think that since I've had an engine sitting in the middle of my garage floor for the past 2 months it'd be a no-brainer! It seems like it enters the case near the starter. Look there, and if no-one posts a definitive answer by the time I get home tonight I'll confirm. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Tranny one starts around the starter area IIRC...Yup, just to the left of it. Should run up under the seat somewhere (at least on the M2 it did.  | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
it comes out of the primary from the bottom rear of the starter, and X1's were routed up under the tail with no filter on the end of the hose. I like sticking a plastic fuel filter on there to be sure that nothing will make its way down into the primary, but it doesnt need a catch can because nothing ever comes out of the hose. Oh, and DAMHIK, but don't route the primary breather along with your crankcase breather - you'll get engine oil puking into the primary | ||
| Kalali |
Thanks guys. So I should look for a hose (with an open end) somewhere under the tail... I'll look for it when I get home tonight. Wondering how come I never saw it before... | ||
| Brinnutz |
Yup, just a hose with nothing over the other end of it...That's it. | ||
| Jramsey |
Moshen, on the X-1 the hose comes out of the primary case behind the starter as in Wilson's pic. and parallels under the front bottom edge of the battery then turns 90 degrees back then over the the rear battery tray frame tube between the rear brake pressure switch and the inside lower edge of the tail where it goes up and vents between the under tray and the tail. | ||
| Buellistic |
Knowledge from the "PAST": if you pinch off you transmission breather by accident and pressure builds up in the transmission by way of the motor sprocket seal ... The transmission oil will back out the clutch cable and you clutch hand will get oil on it ... | ||
| Kalali |
Found it. Exactly like JR described. Now I can see why it could be really messy (and possibly dangerous) if that thing starts puking oil... Mine was bone dry, thank god. Thanks again folks. | ||
| Preybird1 |
Crap mine started splattering bits oil after i put more oil in the motor and the trans 5 days ago. Now today when i got home i was checking my bike out, I found lots of oil dripping out the tail all over the belt and tire. It was running down breather line and the rear brake line. It was everywhere and i hope the crank seal didn't just go out! So i grabbed the hose and yanked it out of the tail and I am trying to rig a catch can so i can monitor this and not crash. | ||
| Fullauto |
It's your crank seal. I'd put money on it. | ||
| Preybird1 |
Well i don't want to tear down the bike until winter. So if i keep adding oil and stay on top of it. I may make winter before it gets to bad. It only seams to do it in the first 3 gears at high rpm. Just cruising around is no problem. | ||
| Kalali |
Russ, good luck man. This bike is really keeping you busy.. | ||
| S2pengy |
Keep in mind on the tubers 28oz is all you should add. If you add 32oz the rest will puke out...... | ||
| Preybird1 |
When i bought this bike it was absolutely never taken care of. It was owned by some air force pilot who would come home on leave or back from duty and would just beat on it and then just put it away for next time. The primary chains were so loose they were cutting into the case! It took me a year to get it just right, then the motor self destructed.Now this bike is getting all the maintenance out of the way. New caliper(s) rebuilt, New for seals bushings spring kit, rear shock changed already, New voltage regulator, New oil pump and updated gear, Both master(s) rebuild, new rotors and new brakes.......And the crank seal and the tranny are next on my list. | ||
| Buell_bert |
Do what you wish but I have been adding a whole quart (32 oz.) ever since I have had my Buell M2s and never had a bit blow out. At least my garage floor is clean. | ||
| Easy_rider |
Remember that the oil is seeping into your transmission case. While you're adding at the top you need to remove some, too. I can't tell you what the effect is of straight engine oil in the case. | ||
| Preybird1 |
Ok results....This is for sure a crank seal. I installed an inline fuel filter in between the hose sections in hopes of catching the oil and keeping it off the bike. Nope not going to work, I rode the bike 38 miles at 85 mph and it filled the filter 1/2 way up! Then i let it sit for 30 minutes and it drained all the oil back into the trans. then i rode it 88 more miles at 90 mph and when i stopped i had massive amounts on the bike and the filter was totally full. This bike can no longer be ridden until this is fixed. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Damn Russ, if it's not one thing it's another! Wish you could have had that done with the rebuild. Maybe it's time to add an XB to the garage... I've seen this first bike, it's at a little car dealership on Main and about 3700 S, he told me to make him an offer early this summer (May or early June I think), he's had it a long time and can prolly be talked down quite a bit, rear tire needs replacing, it's flat in the middle: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=7658938&ca t=144&lpid= http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=7699347&ca t=144&lpid= http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=7629518&ca t=144&lpid= (Message edited by littlebuggles on August 31, 2009) | ||
| Littlebuggles |
...and here's a pretty good looking bike, black Ss in Ogden $5850 http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=7731761&ca t=144&lpid= | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Prey, You going to do the work yourself? It's pretty easy really. I have the seal tool I can loan you. Brad | ||
| Preybird1 |
Bluzm2 I am not sure what i am going to do yet. The stator went out yesterday also. I installed a new voltage regulator but my engine light keeps coming on and it is low battery voltage code. The stator\alternator is only making 12.8 volts when tested. but at 3500-4000k rpm range the stator is grounding. | ||
| Kalali |
The bike is cursed.... | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Perhaps the little bracket inside the primary just chafed through the stator wire? Some have seen that. If so, the stator could be saved with a bit of heat-shrink and luck! | ||
| Preybird1 |
Cursed is right!! Well serves me right for buying it used. I will have the clutch and tranny out by tues. I am putting in a new baker shift drum and new baker smooth shift kit and a new Barnett race clutch with the extra plate's in it. Hopefully the tranny isn't as chewed up as it feels when shifting or it will have some new gears also. Well it looks like no 6 speed for me this time. Now i can also fix the leak behind by the starter as well since i am there. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Hey Russ, I'll have my full tranny for sale soon...15,000 miles on it. =) | ||
| Phelan |
Preybird, the good news is that the trannys are pretty simple and easy to work on/rebuild. I rebuilt the transmission in my Dad's FXD and I can now pull one apart and put it back together in about an hour lol, as long ad the primary side is pulled off (another hour's work). | ||
| Kalali |
Hmmm. Maybe Russ should invite Ross over and a six pack later, job is done.... Even the names are almost the same.... Best of luck. | ||
| Preybird1 |
Ok guys i have a question. When i start the bike and run it, It is getting a lot pressure in the vent tube when plugging it up with your finger. I was talking with a HD mechanic about it and he says the bike isn't breathing correctly and he think it is a rocker box problem???? I don't see how the rockers have been upgraded to the xb pcv valve set up. I have had no problem until i put on a catch can, That is the only thing i have changed since the motor rebuild. The tranny was in perfect condition and the engagement dogs on the gears are not rounded at all but there are some marks from mis-shifting. So i am going to run it the way it is, But i am installing a new baker smooth shift kit and new Barnett clutch kit with a baker shift drum. | ||
| Drhacknstine |
No crank case pressure should ever be in the transmission! Unless you have Blown the seal to the primary, OR grenaded the cases that separate the two. FIX the crank seal...your right there with the cover off to install the baker shift kit.  If you want better crankcase evacuation talk to BUELLISTIC Oh, in the HD mechanics defense, they get paid to bolt on GENUINE HARLEY DAVIDSON CHROME ACCESSORIES, not fix Buells correctly. (Message edited by drhacknstine on September 09, 2009) |
