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Yo_barry
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Long story short, had my drive belt break at the toll booth on the Benicia Bridge (north San Francisco Bay) last Friday morning.

I've got a replacement belt in hand and rear isolators ordered. I've removed both isolators. My question is do they really need to be replaced. I can't see any problems with the parts I took off. I'm not worried about the cost, they are only about $12 each, just waiting for them to arrive.

It's a 2001 S3T with ~56K miles.

Thoughts??
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Might as well since you got 'em out.
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Phelan
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a Nike thing... Just do it.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thinking of emergency Harley open pined belt for saddle bag.
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Bikerjim99
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What method did you use to remove the isolators?

Which belt did you use to replace the broken one with? The new 2009 belt?

I have been thinking of replacing my belt on my 1999 S3, but it looks like new, with 38,000 miles.

Thanks, and good luck with your new isolators and belt.

Jim
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim: My S3 belt lasted 63000 miles.I would say depends on how hard you drive.100,000 miles on S2T.Both driven hard but S3 (26) more HP!
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Yo_barry
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used this method to remove the isolators. Worked great.
http://danielcstarr.googlepages.com/replacetuberis olators

I have the Sportster p/n belt -- same as in my parts manual.

fwiw, my '99 Sportster has 87K miles on the same belt.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S3 belt did not brake!Lost 9 teeth.
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Yo_barry
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That link has a space near the end that might need to be removed.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Any body try this German tool?
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yo_berry:

Improperly adjusted DRIVE BELT early on in it's live, 60K miles or less ...

Have 47K miles on my replacement DRIVE BELT that has been adjusted correctly from day one ...

MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!!

(Message edited by buellistic on May 27, 2009)
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's hard to tell from the pic but I'm assuming you can slip a new belt on with the special tool in-place (with tension spreading)??? I don't need it now but My M2 has 50k and I would like to be prepared when the time comes!
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Essmjay
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barry - at least you were close to home. On my S3 the belt broke on a trip through Montana. Trying to get the belt replaced there is what convinced me to get the S2. I would replace the isolators, esp. if they are not the new upgraded ones with the easier to install curved backing plate.

Shane
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Yo_barry
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cyclonemic... you have to remove the right isolator and the tool to install the belt. It is captured once the isolator is bolted in place.

Shane... you are right about the replacement, not trivial. btw, the isolators are the ones with the curved backing plate, but waiting for the new ones to arrive. Good thing I still have the Sportster.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belt repair kit 130 tooth Harley but not 128 tooth Buell.Dang it!!!!! It could get you out of a tight spot!
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Skntpig
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I broke 2 belts in 11,000 miles. I haven't broken a chain since.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.theadventuremall.com/Belt-Repair-Kit/M/ B000HZZU2G.htm They should make this!
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89rs1200
Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep your belt on the loose side and your rear isolators and belt will last longer.
My original 1997 belt has 50,000 miles on it.

(Message edited by 89rs1200 on May 27, 2009)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if y'alls tubers are getting improved belts or not, but...
I rolled a new belt for my 1125 into a tight knot and stuck it under my seat for 2 months.
I now have over 2100 miles on that belt, proving we CAN carry a spare.













Zack
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone told me once that you should never curl your belt up like that! They said you should never bend it because it puts alot of stress on it! Don't know if that's true but I'd be careful doing it regardless!
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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F_skinner
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know if y'alls tubers are getting improved belts or not I don't think so Zac. I carry a spare used belt on my s2 and I zip tied it to fit in the bag. I figured if mine breaks I can use the spare to get where I need to and I am not concerned about ruining it by wadding it up. What I have not done, which you have, is do a belt change with only tools carried on the bike. I will do that soon.

I run mine loose like everyone else and I am convinced that is the key to belt longevity.

Frank
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the XB belt on my S2's and Cyclone.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad: How so , why so?I am interested!Butch
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think there at at least two different XB belts and I have used the older one. If I am not mistaken it was the same diameter and length. The last "tuber" belt I bought looks and feels a lot like the XB belts.

I remember the 1981 HD Sturgis, It was the first secondary belt drive I ever saw. I remember thinking how wide that belt was. LOL
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Butch,
I don't remember which model it was from but if memory serves, it was one of the 2nd or 3rd designs.
Lots stronger than the stock belt and more forgiving of pebbles and such. I got it from Al at American Sport Bike. He has them in stock.

Brad
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The xb belts work on the tubers and are stronger than the stock belt. Im changing over to that when i drop the swingarm on mine.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court was talking about how much R&D was continually going into the belts.
I offered to do an abuse test to see if we could do what I am doing now.
He got a new belt from Buell R&D and sent it to me.

a link to the thread where I put the abused belt on Loretta.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/440981.html
There's a link in that thread to the one where it started.

Mileage is 18.4k, getting ready for the 18.6k service, I'm impressed.
2200 miles on this belt and it looks like new.

Z
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone here think Zac should have a tuber????
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you use stock pullies(S2,S3) with XB belt? these are narrower belts XB that I am thinking of.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use by stock pulleys, no problem. The belt I used is only slightly narrower than the stocker.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Brad!Sounds like the right thing to do!
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