| Author | Message | ||
     Outdoors |
I'm considering a switch from an '04 sportster to a Buell and have run across a M2 with 4km (1.8 miles) on the clock. I'm just starting to attempt to gather some details concerning the bike, how it was stored, etc. I see a few recalls were issued for this year pertaining to the rear shock, etc and several posts have indicated that the 2002 M2 was the best. Can anyone advise what changes were made from 2000 to 2002 other than the tach becoming standard? Once I get more details I will likely go see the bike and what type of deal can be made. I'm sure there will be some dry seals/gaskets that will reveal themselves quickly and I would certainly inspect the cylinders, etc. Anything else that is particular to this model and year? Thanks. | ||
| Buell_bert |
My 2000 and 2001 had the stock shocks but I did have to do the rocker box gasket job which was easy. If you like Buells I would go for it. It will not sit like a Sporty though. | ||
| Outdoors |
Different is why I am considering it. My second ride is a '79 Bonnieville and I find the sportster is too similar. I would like a bit more power and better handling than my sportster provides however I like a twin's power delivery. I've tested a couple Ducs (new 696 Monster and Sport 1000) and liked the sport 1000 but missed the raw torque feeling the M2 should provide. Dependability is really my main concern with the M2. | ||
| Xldevil |
You got to change the oil pump drive gear! Use the Buell Beryllium upgrade,or the one Lucky http://www.luckyparts.de/ offers.The OEM OPDG is prone to kill your engine. Ralph | ||
| Court |
It's not only a great bike it's one of the best bikes every made. . . . I can prove it. I **think** I have a case of old 2002 sales literature around if you have any problems getting information. I'd wager you'd very much enjoy the M2. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
The main things to do to a 2000 make it bullet proof are: New metal/rubber rocker box gaskets. New double lip crank seal. New style primary chain adjuster. New style metal/rubber starter gasket New style primary gasket. 2001 shifter instead of the stock boomerang style. Shock recall if it's not already done. 45 pilot and 190 main in carb with low speed screw "uncorked" and set to 2 1/2 turns out to start. If you change out the oil pump drive, you can also replace the stock paper cam cover gasket with the newy style metal/rubber unit. Notice any pattern here? Yup, gaskets and seals... The primary seal isn't manditory right away but it WILL fail in time. The single lip seal had a tendancy to get hard and brittle. The primary adjuster WILL fail, there is a reason the new style has a MUCH beefier base plate. Since you already have the clutch and primary off, change out the starter gasket, it will eventually start to leak. The stock paper rocker box gaskets WILL fail, probably well before 10,000 miles. Easier to change them out now before the get cooked onto the mating surfaces. You will LOVE the Cyclone. I can't wait to get mine back together and ride the bugger. How muc they looking to get for the one in question? Brad | ||
| Outdoors |
Thanks. That's the type of information I was looking for. I'll let you know if I go see it or pick it up.  | ||
| Koz5150 |
I have a 2002 (see pic in profile) and I have been mostly happy with my bike. My dad rides an 2001 Sportster and has logged 30,000 miles without a problem. Even with Buell heads his bike is slower then my M2. I have changed my air cleaner and exhaust and pul about 5 more hp then him. As far as reliability, I have had minor stuff on my bike. The rocker box gaskets were replaced from paper to metal. My Speedo died from a faulty sensor. The most annoying issue was an intermitant ground short caused by a washer between the grounding strap and the frame becoming rusted. Once replaced with a stainless washer it has worked flawless. Other issues include two snapped motor mount bolts in the front head and recently an exhaust mount bolt snapped in the head. Both of which I attribute to a 85 mph flip I took at a track day. Other then that the bike has been a solid performer for me. I have no problem handling 400 mile days and have done a few 300 mile days two up with my wife. I am 6'2" and find the bike very comfortable. My Dad is 5'10" and finds the seat to be to high. | ||
| Versyschris |
Hi Outdoors, I know the bike you are talking about. It's at Coles Autohaus in Bridgewater. I work next door at the DOT. I have been eying the bike myself, but bought a Kawi before I spotted the M2. It's funny, that I just checked in this forum again todya, because I was looking at it again myself. Don't know where you saw it, but the lowest price currently posted is $6500. Wouldn't mind hearing from you if you decide getting it. I am still am curious, but can't sell my Kawi just yet. Anyway, write me a message if you care too. Chris | ||
| Versyschris |
Hi again, just thought I let you know, the bike needs new tires. It has the original tires on it and they are hard as a rock by now. Cheers Chris | ||
| Outdoors |
Chris, Yes, that's the one. I'm told they bought it about two years ago from a NB Harley/Buell dealer but just put it up for sale about six months ago. Thanks for mentioning the tires as I hadn't thought of that. I will check with Privateers for replacement parts prices and the recall issues. I may go see it and make an offer. I would need to check it over as sitting can cause more issues than being used. It is dry right now but they can have it ready to start if I request. I have also been looking at a clean 2007 XB12ss with less than 4000 km and the seller is motivated to sell. Resale of Buells in NS is very poor so I'm looking for the best deal possible and have cash in hand. | ||
| Bernd |
If you go down the page a bit, you will see my thread asking about a virgin '00 Cyclone. Same bike. In November Bob Coleman was asking $4500 for it. I thought it had 4000kms. When he told me, over the phone, that it was 4kms I told him consider it sold. Then he backed out and said he was looking for bids. Douchebag. Is he up to $6500 now? | ||
| Bernd |
I checked my records. He was asking $5500. Sorry about that. But still, my enthusiasm indicated that he should hold out for more. Douchebag. | ||
| Versyschris |
Hi Bernd & Outdoors, the bike was on sale for $9995 in the fall of 2007. This spring it went down to $6995 and the lowest I have seen it is at $6500 on Kijiji or the Trader. Not sure which one (check it yourself if need be). The bike is in really good shape, but that should be expected, since it hasn't been ridden. I was worried about the "not being use" for so long too. Sitting is harder on the bike then being driven. I didn't know that the bike is "dry". That doesn't make to much sense, since it would have been filled with oil from the factory. I would be even more worried if they had drained the fluids and never refilled them. Rust would start on the inside and you wouldn't even see it. It's just a shame, that this bike didn't find a rider. Maybe if I win some money, I will make it a pet project, but as for now, I can't sell a very good bike to take on a bike that might need some coin and TLC. Cheers Chris P.S. Outdoors, let me know what you are going to get. Just curios. | ||
| Bernd |
My 2000 Cyclone sat in a warehouse until August 2004. Another Buell X1 I was looking at sat 4 years as well. I don't know about the USA but in Canada these bikes had high prices from new. I love mine to bits, can't imagine selling it. | ||
| Jon960 |
My 2001 Cyclone sat in a warehouse in Japan from 2003 to 2007 and sure the carb needed a new O ring kit and a couple of gaskets replaced but the rest was mainly just TLC required like surface rust on the bolts & screws etc. plus a repaint to my colour choice.(see profile), I got it at 3500 miles and it is a ton of fun. love it! | ||
| Cbig |
I had a yella 00' M2 I put 46k on without a worry other than rocker gaskets. Apparently my oil pump was good. I sold that bike some years back for $3500. It ran and was flawless. Recently bought a 01' M2 with less than 960 miles on it for $2800. Bike is cherry - looks brand new. Been a flawless performer (rocker gaskets again - never done by prev owner) It's a great bike and comfy with the s3 bars. I'm more than reasonably sure I can get more serious miles out of it - at least 60-70k based on experience. If you frontload and do the upgrades right away you'll be very happy with the bike. The $$ sounds pretty extreme tho'..xb priced. If I was paying that much cash I might buy an xb. (not that I'd want to wrench on an xb tho') | ||
| Outdoors |
I went and looked at the bike and ended up making a deal on it.  I've picked up a Force intake and ordered a tach kit and new rocker cover gaskets. I'll look for a replacement exhaust or slip-on, do some carb tuning, and I should be good for quite a few miles. Looking forward to spring now for sure. | ||
| Hippyjoe |
Yeah you're right just ride it, at 4k miles you're likely safe for a while. On the primary tensioner... if it is an early y2k, it will need to be replaced, usually around 12-15k miles. Once you are ready for that job you can look into replacing the clutch spring plate "while you're in there." If the bike was made in July 00 or later, your tensioner would be the updated one so your primary should be safe until 30k or so, based on averages. You will need to update your exhaust hanger to the Y style, if it wasn't done already, before you start cracking exhaust studs off at the head. With the opd gear, again, the law of averages says you have a 99% chance of being safe until around 12-15k, at which point it becomes more like 95%. By that time the M2 cams should be checked anyway. So ride it for a few thousand miles, if you feel like it needs more umph then you can go after cams, opd gear, and gaskets all at the same time. Until then keep the fluids clean and go. Also make sure the engine and primary aren't overfull, check the KV for specifics. | ||
| Outdoors |
Hippyjoe, It actually only has 3 kilometers on it (about 1.8 miles). It was advertised at 4 km but when I went to have a look only three are on the clock. It was a left over that a car dealer bought about two years ago, along with an S3T that he really wanted and he decided after a bit to sell the M2. I am aware of the primary chain tightener issue and will check it. I've spoken to the local dealer and they will do the recalls in the spring. Two of the sales guys at this dealership ride XB's (one used to own an X1) and one of the senior mechanics rides an '02 M2. I plan to do most of my own maintenance but they at least seem interested in the bike and in helping me out in any way they can. Bring on the spring! | ||
| Hippyjoe |
Even better. You're in NS? I'm in central Maine, if you ever get down this way give me a shout. | ||
| Outdoors |
Joe, Will do. I would love to take a bike trip down through there, perhaps to NH. Years ago we used to go every summer to the Maine side of Grand Lake for a holiday. I also have many childhood memories of my parent's big Ford traveling down the airline route heading for Bangor. We see lot's of US bikers up here every summer as once off the Trans Canada highway there are great biking roads. The Cabot Trail is a favorite. |
