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M2statz
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 08:30 am: |
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Went to the work shop last nite to get the snowblower ready for more snow and notice a small puddle of oil under the M2. I can not tell where it is coming from. The bike has been winterized and not rode since the middle of November. Why would it spring a leak now and is it something that needs attention now or can it wait until spring? Thanks and happy holidays!! M2Statz |
Road_thing
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:04 am: |
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Hmmm. "...to get the snowblower ready for more snow..." I think it can wait. Doesn't sound like you're gonna be riding it soon! Seriously, an oil leak an't hurt the bike if it isn't running. I'd suggest putting a pan or sheet of newspaper under it to see if it's leaking continuously or if it's just some old oil running off. Is your shop heated? rt |
Kalali
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:15 am: |
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While this is not going to "hurt" the bike sitting still, this is probably a good opportunity to get it fixed and be ready for spring. The best approach is totally clean/degrease the motor area and put a clean sheet underneath the bike and go from there... I have seen leaks where they start in one place and the oil ends up in a whole different area underneath the bike depending on what "guides" the oil from the source to the ground. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:21 am: |
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Yay. welcome to the club of unfixable and unknown leaks. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:29 am: |
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Look on the bright side. If it's leaking, you're not out of oil...yet |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:51 am: |
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Is it the rear shock? Perhaps it's just spooge condensing out from the airbox? |
Stoked
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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My rear shock did that. I didn't notice any leaking gradually, then one morning pile of oil under it from a leaky shock. |
Scott_in_nh
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 11:56 am: |
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welcome to the club of unfixable and unknown leaks. That's a myth! Find it - fix it. I have no paper gaskets left in my engine and have been leak free for 1.3 years (knock on wood!). I share a garage with my brother and it has a variety of bikes and quads in it. The only 2 that don't mark their territory is his wifes quad and my "Harley" as he calls it! suzuki = leaks ducati = leaks yamaha = leaks buell = no leaks as others mentioned, clean it well enough to find where it is coming from. Suspect any gaskets that are still the factory paper gaskets 1st! |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 12:15 pm: |
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Someone should compile a list of all the paper gaskets used. Scott, I nominate you! What gaskets are paper from the factory, so I can replace them all, as I think I might pull the motor since I'll be putting new cams in, when I get them in Jan sometime. |
Texastechx1
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 01:22 pm: |
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I'm going through my engine./drivetrain in Jan to fix all my leaks and preventive maintance. |
Road_thing
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 01:59 pm: |
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My preventive maintenance often needs repairing, too. rt |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 02:08 pm: |
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Can someone post all paper gaskets that need to be updated? I got the rocker box ones done. |
M2statz
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 03:06 pm: |
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May be it is leaking because I cleaned the bike before I stored it for the winter. I will spend more time investigating the leak. The shop is not heated but heavily insulated. Thanks and will keep you all posted. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 04:21 pm: |
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I *think* the only gaskets that were never paper are: Cylinder base Engine case to primary I believe all the others, at one point or another, were paper... +1 on the clean/run/trace process. My smartass comment above was just that - totally non-constructive, lol. |
Scott_in_nh
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 04:34 pm: |
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Can't promise that I go them all or that they all are literally paper, but here are the leak prone gaskets with improved versions available (usually rubber coated metal); Rocker box cylinder base gasket (this is the only one I am not sure whether it has been replaced in my bike) starter motor gasket (I've seen a very experienced rider crash due to ignoring this one!) primary cover gasket gear box cover gasket Feel free to add any I missed! Rat, the primary cover gasket was paper too (that was my 1st leak after purchase)! (Message edited by scott_in_nh on December 17, 2008) |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 05:03 pm: |
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Scott - I knew the primary cover gasket was. I just can't remember - last one I worked on was a big twin - if there's a gasket between the primary and the engine on a Buell, or if the Sporty motor has a single casting and the only primary gasket is the cover. Now that I think more about it, it's one casting. I should have remembered that from when I had to replace a mainshaft bearing in my S1W.... |
Newbuellertoo
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 11:53 pm: |
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Check and see if it's coming from the clutch cable. I usually put my bike on my center stand if its sitting any length of time. The snow came early this year and after 5 weeks on the side stand, it started leaking down the cable from the derby cover area. I assume when the bike is sitting upright, there's not as much oil in that area. Mine has stopped now. |
Pkforbes87
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 07:38 am: |
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The athletes foot powder spray works well for making oil leaks obvious. Spray it generously then wait for an area of white powder turning black |
M2statz
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:05 am: |
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The leak has stopped and I can not tell where it came from. With the holidays rapidly approaching and the trails open for the sled it may have to wait until after the new year. I do not have a center stand to put it on. Is this a good thing to do for storage over long periods of time? |
Pkforbes87
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:38 am: |
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Personally I like getting both tires off the ground during storage. Before I got stands I just parked her on carpet which caused no apparent flat spots on the tires. Just had to keep a drip pan for those never-ending leaks =] |
Kalali
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:41 am: |
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How did you guys make/put the center stand? I put pieces of wood under the side stand leg to make it as upright as possible. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:58 am: |
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Kalali, A company called "CenterStand" made a stand that went under the pegs. Only lifted the rear though. I've got one, but they are hard as hell to find. |
Dfbutler
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 01:04 pm: |
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Al at American Sport Bike had them. Call him. I've been using one from him for a couple of years. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 01:12 pm: |
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Oh yeah, he may have some left. |
Pkforbes87
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 01:40 pm: |
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I've got one of the center stands and a pit bull for the front. While using both you need about a 1" block of wood or something under the center stand or the front stand will sit the rear tire back on the ground. |