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Svmotoman
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:02 pm: |
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What does the P.M. stand for? Why do they seem so desired? What did they cost originally? Can they be found new/used? |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:09 pm: |
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Performance Machine....or Machined. It's the manufacturer of the wheel I believe. They are polished aluminum, not painted alloy. I believe it was a $1500 upgrade from the factory. Yes, there are a couple sets on eBay right now. (Message edited by brinnutz on September 11, 2008) |
Maxbuell
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:11 pm: |
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I am not certain but I think the PM stands for polished metal. I think they are desired because they have a much shiner finish then the later model rims. Not sure of the cost but I do see them from time to time on Ebay and here on the classisfed board. |
Blks1l
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:14 pm: |
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They are Performance Machine, who makes a wide variety of motorcycle wheels, and brake calipers, and components. Really nice quality stuff, the early Buells I beleive up to 98, had a PM front brake caliper. Dean |
Svmotoman
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:19 pm: |
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hmm... they sound soft/delicate. Came in only one size? |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:36 pm: |
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Soft/delicate? Hmm... I believe they did. 17" x 5.5" |
5liter
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 02:49 pm: |
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If you love to polish, they're the wheel for you. I have them on my S3T. |
Jramsey
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 03:11 pm: |
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17 x 5.5 Rear. 17 x 3.5 Front. As a set they are about 7 lbs. lighter than the cast wheels. Hydroformed/Spun wheels are soft and ding easily compared to a heat treated cast wheel. You can tell when they were manufactured by the last four numbers(date code) after the size. 17 x 3.5 00 09 PM would be Sept. of 2000. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 03:16 pm: |
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"17 x 5.5 Rear. 17 x 3.5 Front. As a set they are about 7 lbs. lighter than the cast wheels." Did you weigh them yourself? I've heard the opposite... that they were heavier than the three spoke Buell tuber wheels. This might have more to do with the rear being 1/2" wider, but that's the info that's floated around for a few years... as well as their reputation for being easily dinged. |
Jramsey
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 03:26 pm: |
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On a certified grain scale. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 03:29 pm: |
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Were these the Marchesini three spokers or the last generation Buell three spokers? |
Jramsey
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 03:38 pm: |
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I was new to Buells then I didn't ask at the time. They belonged to a customer and he was switching over to the PMs from the OEM cast. |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 04:33 pm: |
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PM = Polish ME PS I had disapointing results clear powder coating them don't do it. |
5liter
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 04:56 pm: |
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Oldog: I like that PM = Polish ME For sure!! |
Numb_nutz
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 08:06 pm: |
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I read some where on this site i believe, PM wheels are made by a company call precision machine. |
Ebutch
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 08:18 pm: |
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I vote Polish Me Wheels!http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/P10 10158.jpg |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 08:21 pm: |
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PM = Polish ME That's funny!!! As I recall, Performance Machine wheels were a $725 option, but they were $1500 to buy them separately. (For the life of me I can't think of where that flier ended up after several moves.) I've always like the looked of polished metal, so they are worth the effort to me. It's a nice offset on a black bike. I'm also a fair weather rider so I don't have to clean up water spots that often (except for tonight). I ended up with a set recently that were left outside, and have become pitted. Even then, they look great with just a little time with a Mothers polish wheel. |
Al_lighton
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 09:51 am: |
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The PMs are definitely heavier than the cast wheels. I had the weights from several wheels written down somewhere, not here. But IIRC, the PM's were about a pound heavier per wheel than the castalloys, which were about 1/2 lb heavier than the similar Marchesinis. PM=Performance Machine. The early ones were what they called "Chicane" style, I think. The later ones that had the swoopier spokes without the slot in the center were exclusively Buell, I think, as I never saw them in the PM catalogs. But the earlier ones were adopted by Buell but I don't think they were developed exclusively for Buell. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 01:36 pm: |
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Hey AL, thanks for the info. Do you remember the approximate weight of the wheels? I've never actually held a Buell wheel without the tire being on it. |
Zenfrogmaster
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:16 pm: |
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I found this long ago and kept it for just such an occasion: Castalloy Front: 10 pounds 15.0 ounces; 3.5 inch width Rear: 15 pounds 10.5 ounces; 5.0 inch width Marchesini Front: 10 pounds 8.0 ounces; 3.5 inch width Rear: 14 pounds 15.0 ounces; 5.0 inch width Performance Machine Front: 12 pounds 0 ounces; 3.5 inch width Rear: 15 pounds 6.5 ounces; 5.5 inch width |
Phelan
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:43 pm: |
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If you really want light wheels, fork up $2K for some Dymag carbon fibre wheels . They weigh about 2 lbs each. |
Ebutch
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 05:35 pm: |
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Just (Polished Me)http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/100 _0096.jpg wheels! |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 11:19 pm: |
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I'm stunned that a new in-the-box front wheel just went for a little over $200 bucks on eBay. Too bad I couldn't justify another set! |