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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I'm going to claim stupidity on this one. And my thread is now archived, so I have to start another.

I'm going to be putting X1 forks on my M2L.

This will raise up the front end. Now, how do I go about raising the rear end? Do I need to get a stock M2 or other later shock?

So, I am trying to figure out if the shocks are different, or just different settings?

Thanks.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need to get a 14.6" long shock... the shock for an M2 Low is slightly longer than a standard 01-02 M2 shock. You can also use the much longer 16.5" shock that came on pre-01 Buells (or an equivalent aftermarket shock) if you use the pre-01 straight (not bent) shock mount.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brinnutz - It would be a hell of a lot cheaper to simply raise the X1 tubes in the trees to emulate the ride height of the stock M2L. Then raise the risers if necessary, then compensate bar height with lower (or flip them) bars.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But I have Crossroads handlebars, that's the problem.

I have thought about that, but there's just enough clearance between the top triple tree and the handlebars.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw by your profile that you have Crossroads bars. If you think that the look of those bars are more important than the cost of raising the rear of the bike with a replacement shock and/or bracket then go for it.

That is simply emotion over logic, I can understand that! I do it all the time, but always evaluating my critical criteria to determine the direction I go.

The point is that it would be cheaper to shim up your stock risers to clear the raised tubes and mount a generic flat drag bar or flip over your stock bars in the risers to accomplish the same thing.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a friend to help measure the distance to the ground with your bike upright from the triple clamps (old forks), remember you'll have an inch or two of sag then set up the new forks to the same.

The low model already has the updated shock mount doesn't it?

If you haven't got a lot of money to throw at it I've got a spare 16.5" shock with remote res I can send you cheap, the catch is that it is blown so you may want to have aftershocks or someone go over it before you put it on.

Keep those bars, they are great for canyon riding and the track too, not just aesthetics but much better for aggressive riding.

-Mike
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Brinnutz
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rickie, it's not just for aesthetics, it's for the riding position. I don't like the sitting upright, I like the lean, and like the fella above me said, it's great for aggressive riding. Which I thoroughly enjoy...

(Message edited by brinnutz on September 06, 2008)
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brinnutz
What are your plans for the "L" forks?
I was working on a deal with Dwardo, to swap some parts and make him a high and me a low; don't know where that stands at the moment. I have a standard 02 shock laying in the floor now. If I don't have anything going on the other deal, maybe we could do some swapping.
There are pic's comparing the shocks in a couple of threads in the M2 section.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I planned on keeping them, just in case I would ever need to sell her, she's going back all stock. That way I can recoup most of the money than if I leave the parts on there.
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds logical to me.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, it'll sell for damn near the same price with a couple grand worth of extras...
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Rickie_d
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know it is for the riding position, there are many ways of accompishing that bar position without the limiting factor of the Crossroads bars....
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not pull the spring spacers in the front forks or a Progressive spring kit for $50+ bucks? Wouldn't that maintain your stock height?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I like the lean, and like the fella above me said, it's great for aggressive riding. Which I thoroughly enjoy..."

All Showa shocks (in my experience on Buell applications) have poor durability and poor high speed damping characteristics compared to a quality aftermarket shock. If you ride agressively, replacing the Showa shock will be the biggest bang-for-the-buck when it comes to increasing the prowess of your Buell for backroad scratching. The 8900 series Penske I have totally transformed my bikes handling... night and day difference when the going gets tight in the mountains.

Increasing sag up front to compensate for your Low suspension ride height isn't really a good option reagardless of how you ride. Match the rear ride height with the front (however you want) and stay within the specified range of sag (front and rear) for best suspension performance.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dj, I can't afford a Penske...

So, no one has answered this.

Will a stock M2 shock, raise the rear end to normal on my M2L, or is there more to it than just that?

Or, is the only difference in the rear the seat?
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Brinnutz
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just reread some of the posts again.

So, the stock M2 shock is "shorter" than the M2L, correct?
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the answer is yes the stock m2 shock will raise the m2l to the normal height of a m2.
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