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Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:56 am: |
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I was googling around today trying to find a catch can, as my bike literally spews oil from the breathers. $15.89 gets you : Billet Aluminum Catch Tank Compact and light, this billet aluminum catch tank weighs less than 1/2 pound! Comes complete with fittings for 1/4" - 5/16" hose and band clamps to attach to a frame rail, seat strut, etc. Measures 1.75" in diameter by 5.5" long including petcock. Capacity approximately 10 ounces. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.as p?RecId=4703 Shipping is reasonable at about $6.80. Just thought I'd share my find. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 03:03 pm: |
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My catch container(BLACK) is a Dyno Oil 20W50 and hid under the license bracket of my 1997 S3T ... |
Schwiiing
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 07:09 pm: |
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Nice find. Got one on the way. Been looking for a better solution than my Starbucks espresso can without getting spendy. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 09:14 pm: |
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Awesome...Glad I could help someone else out!! Looks like Mikef5000 or whatever it is has the same, after doing some more searching around here.. |
Bad_karma
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:42 pm: |
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Wilson If it is spewing all the time you maybe over filling the oil. If not it is time to do a leak down test on the cylinders. My catch can rarely gets more that a couple table spoon every few thousand miles. Joe |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:57 pm: |
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Holy crap. Every few thousand? Hell, I'll be cleaning it out after every few tank fills. Is it overfilling if it's not even touching the dipstick and it's still doing it? How does one do the leak down test? |
Bad_karma
| Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 02:39 am: |
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Wilson What is then oil level in the tank with the bike warmed and running on the side stand. Leak down test takes an air compressor and small valve/manifold setup. Jeggs or Summit have them. You pressurize the cylinder via the plug. Joe |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 03:02 am: |
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I'll find out and report back. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:01 am: |
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You want the oil 1(one)inch from the the sidestand edge of the oil tank dip stick hole with the bike on the side stand running after a good ride ... Want to prevent base gasket weeping, put a PVC valve in your timing plug hole ... "i" use a PVC valve from a CHEV Sprint Metro ... You can not use a pvc valve out of a FORD 460 CI as the engine has to be as close to your engine size as possible !!! If you over fill your oil tank, the excess oil will pump out the PVC valve much quicker than the head breathers ... |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 04:59 pm: |
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I have the exact one. See here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/291947.html I love it, but I empty it every time I fill up with gas. I didn't empty it for awhile and it filled completely up in about a thousand miles, then started blowing out through the crank seal. Now I remember to empty it at least every other fillup, but usually every one. |
Schwiiing
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 08:05 pm: |
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Wilson/Mike - Got the catch can delivered. Question on the installation... Where does the hose from the "L" fitting on the side go to? Is it just a vent line? (Message edited by schwiiing on September 08, 2008) |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 08:52 pm: |
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Bryan, I've yet to install mine.. How many fittings did your can come with and did it come with any hose in the kit I've only got on hose fitting and the drain plug. How does that drain plug work anyways? |
Schwiiing
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 03:12 pm: |
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Mine came w/ the catch can, two large hose clamps and three fittings - the drain, and two line fittings (one straight, one 'L'). The drain looks like a double threaded set up. A larger fitting w/ a nut head that's hollow and threaded on the inside. A second "bolt" threads inside w/ a wing-nut style head so you can remove it by hand and let it drain. I expected some sort of spring tensioned drain fitting. I'm gonna give the manufacturer a shout. I'll post my findings if Mike doesn't respond first. |
M2statz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 12:29 pm: |
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Bump!! Just so I can find it later! |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 01:03 pm: |
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Since mine came short a fitting, they refunded me my shipping. They don't have any in stock at the moment, I think we bought them all up. =) |
Sparropie
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 03:00 pm: |
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Made mine from PVC fittings... $3.00
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Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 03:12 pm: |
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Bryan, Mike is using it as a vent and I plan to as well. Sorry, forgot to answer that. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 03:14 pm: |
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Oh yea, I'm trying to find fittings that aren't so damn small. The breathers use 3/8" hose. The can has super small fittings. Doh. (Message edited by brinnutz on September 10, 2008) |
M2statz
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 10:16 pm: |
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BUMP! |
Dreadnaught1
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 08:23 am: |
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The only problem with those are you just created a closed system and put pressure in your crankcase with could cause a hp loss or gaskets blowing out. I do not see a breather on that one. I just got a 1 pint Jaz, even the brackets included are for a tube, so perfect fit. I also vented my trans into it. http://www.jazproducts.com/breather_tanks.html
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Brinnutz
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 08:47 am: |
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Dread, you send both lines into one hole, and use the other as a breather. I plan on doing it that way. How much is it? Is it....Cheap, is the question? (Message edited by brinnutz on September 12, 2008) |
Dreadnaught1
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 01:00 pm: |
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No, If you look there are two 3/8 connectors. I converted my rocker covers to XB style. I tee them 2-1 then braided line into the JAZ, the trans used to vent under the tail but I routed it back to the other 3/8 fitting. The filter on it is the vent and there is a drain on the bottom. It is hard to find a pint version of any catch can, I ordered tight from the factory and I think is was $60+/- to my door. If you order from Jegs or Summit you are at $79 without shipping. I moved the trans line because I am getting the carbon undertail from American Sport Bike next week for the M2. I am finishing the bike within the next two weeks and will post pictures of the Beast. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 01:25 pm: |
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"I also vented my trans into it." Make sure you didn't create a situation where the engine breathers feed spooge and water into the transmission vent line through the common catch-can. There isn't always positive pressure coming from the transmission vent line... when the bike cools off, it'll have a slight vacuum until it reaches ambient temperature. |
Dreadnaught1
| Posted on Friday, September 12, 2008 - 02:02 pm: |
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No I think it will be OK. The hoses angle up and as long as I do not let the level get up I think it will be OK. That was my concern having the trans suck back. I might get an inline PCV Valve allowing only 1 way movement of fluids. From another post.
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Brinnutz
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 02:38 am: |
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Got mine mounted today and am wondering. If the oil breather line goes up above the breather itself, is that bad? |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 09:05 am: |
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I've had this setup for over 15k miles now. My link again for those that have questions about install: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/291947.html And answers: Where does the hose from the "L" fitting on the side go to? Is it just a vent line? Vent line. You can just put a breather filter on it, or just run it back into the factory location of the vent line in the intake like I did. How many fittings did your can come with and did it come with any hose in the kit I've only got on hose fitting and the drain plug. How does that drain plug work anyways? Should have two fittings as you now know. The drain plug has a valve that should just be finger tight. Spin it up and the slime will flow out the center, then spin it down to seal it off. Oh yea, I'm trying to find fittings that aren't so damn small. The breathers use 3/8" hose. The can has super small fittings. That was a trick. What I found is that the 3/8" hose fits perfectly over the entire fitting. Meaning, it's tight over the actual 'bolt' part of the fitting, so just push it all the way flush to the catch can, then tighten a hose clamp over the 'bolt' part of the fitting. I also used some RTV to make sure it was sealed. You can see what I'm talking about in my pictures, the top fitting is completely hidden. The 90 degree fitting was a little more tricky since you can't slide the tube over it. My jerry-rigged setup involved electrical tape wrapped around the fitting to enlarge it, then slide the hose over the electrical taped fitting, then tighten the PISS outa the hose clamp. It's worked perfectly. The only problem with those are you just created a closed system and put pressure in your crankcase with could cause a hp loss or gaskets blowing out. A closed system will most definately cause a gasket blowout. This isn't a closed system. Where yours has two inputes and a breather output, this one has one input and one output (presumably to a breather or intake). Got mine mounted today and am wondering. If the oil breather line goes up above the breather itself, is that bad? Some will argue that the lines should run downhill from the rockerbox to the catch can. I argue that it makes no difference at all though. Sure, you wouldn't want it to go far uphill, but a few inches (see my pictures) won't hurt a thing. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 11:00 am: |
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Mike, perfect timing. I routed mine uphill as well, and actually, mounted it on the same spot as you. Thanks. |
M2statz
| Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 10:31 pm: |
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bump again |
Kerryb
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 11:54 pm: |
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I posted this in the wrong place before. I want to replace the crank case breather bolts on my M2 with compression fittings. Does anyone know the thread size? |
Rick_a
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 04:14 pm: |
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This one's nice and inexpensive. |
M2statz
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 10:45 pm: |
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Bump!! So I can find it!! |
92firebird
| Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2011 - 12:10 am: |
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old thread but heres the link to the Pingel Catch Can shown above https://shop.pingelonline.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit?comp=PEI turns out Pingel is right in my state too haha |