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Kickboxin
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if the race ignition module from a 98 will work on a 02? I know a lot of things changed in 00 but not sure if it would still work. I dont want to find out the hard way.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, it won't work. The modules and connectors are different.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need one like this.

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Kickboxin
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake.. thanks for saving me some heartache!
Is that the real part number on there?
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Dreadnaught1
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Search E-bay and American Sport bike website. 2000 and below are harder to get. Just scored one. for a 2000 M2. NOS $85
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're welcome. Click the link above to go to the Buell parts page for that item. Here it is again in its full URL glory...


http://www.buell.com/en_us/gear/accessories/Produc t.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineID=6&CategoryID=1&Produ ctID=3177
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Jc000
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Blake, the Buell site refers to this as an X1/S3 part. This will work for the M2? There are no issues between FI and Carb? Just want to be sure. Why does Buell differentiate between the models?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh geez! No, that's the wrong part. Sorry about that. No page on Buell.com for the M2 race ignition module.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was my understanding that the M2 could use any of the race ignition modules? I bought a M2 specific unit a few years ago but was told by the dealer any of them would work as long as the plug was compatible.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That part number is 91438-99Y according to this source. Still available, too... in England.

http://www.robinsonsfoundry.co.uk/shop/index.php/p roduct/buell/buellpartsclearance/index.html

I wouldn't get one unless I got a screaming deal on one. The race kit ignition didn't make much of difference on my near stock M2.
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Guell
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my race ignition says 32680-96y on it

Im not sure if it made a difference at all or not, i just like having a spare stock sitting arround if it ever craps out.
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Kickboxin
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DJkaplan. That part on that site shows up to 00 m2s, would this be the same for 01 & 02?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NO!

Sorry, I lost track of what year your bike is.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the deal... the race ignition doesn't do much according to this dyno comparison on a near stock bike...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/10398.html?1059591514

The only reason I have one is because it came with the factory race kit. The ignition was an easy R&R so I did that first. The performance difference I felt in the seat of my pants pretty much matches what the dyno comparison reveals.

Like Guell says... it's nice having a spare ignition laying around but I think I'll wind up replacing the race ignition with a programmable one in the future.
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Guell
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan on doing the same when i eventually dig into the engine for more power. Right now it seems to be fine for me.

Other than having a spare arround, i cant see the point in burning the money on it like i did. I was a noob at the time.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not sure, but I think Aaron Wilson's red M2 in the link I posted is the same one that went 150mph at Bonneville a few years ago. The bike was geared, of course, but I think it was fairly streetable.

It's at the bottom of this link.

http://www.nrhsperformance.com/racing.shtml

I bet that bike could hit 160 on pavement.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The biggest difference I noticed on my '02 M2 going to the late model race module, engine stock with just 2 1/2" muffled exhaust with insert, K&N air cleaner and jetted properly was that it continued to pull strong right to the rev. limiter (somewhere just shy of 7000 rpm's). With the stock module it kinda flattened out about 5500 rpm's. With my jetting, equipped as I stated, I can grab a handful at 2500 and pull real strong all the way through to redline without a dip anywhere.
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Kickboxin
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But is that more of a result of proper jetting or the race module?
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff(Kickboxin), welcome to my old stomping grounds, Chicago. I think both; the strong pull all the way through is good jetting but the flattening out after 5500 is my understanding of what is programmed in the stock module from Buell engineers along with a slightly better advance rate through the mid-range.
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