| Author | Message | ||
     Psykick_machanik |
Does anyone get their tps regularly calibrated. I know what the book says, but do you actually have to do it often. Just wondering because I have no way to get it done. I live on an island in southeast Alaska and would have to ship my bike to get it calibrated. (BIG bucks) I can do everything myself (helicopter mechanic) except the tps cal. My bike runs great so Im not sure if I should worry about this. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Bart Check out VSDS from American Sport Bike or ECMSPY programs believe they both allow you to reset the TPS. Joe | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
If it's running right a low throttle settings, don't mess with it. | ||
| Fullauto |
The free ecm spy software and a cable from a laptop or personal computer will allow a TPS reset very simply. It made a big difference to my X1 which nhadn't been done in living memory. | ||
| Jos51700 |
ECMspy is way better than the VDSTS, and cheaper, too. I actually prefer the ECMSPY over the digital tech (HD's factory-supplied system.) TPS resets don't need to be done all the time, once a year is good for the average rider, nor is it the root of all ills as seems to be the diagnosis pattern on the XB board. The engine timing (don't screw with it, just set it to stock) is the most important single tuning factor on X1's and XB's. | ||
| Ducxl |
A good friend has both programs.I used his VDSTS software when i'd broken part of the TPS plastic plug whilst performing service to a nearby part.I had replaced the TPS and then it wouldn't run.After a couple trys with the software i did it correctly and it now runs like a top. No reason for it to lose calibration unless physically disturbed. The VDSTS is plug&play.The ECMspy needs some cable fabrication | ||
| Xodot |
I just did my first TPS reset today with ECM Spy. It took me a couple of hours to make sure I did it right. I had a hard time finding the idle adjust screw. Someone had put a piece of hose on the end of it and left the end of the hose in an easy to adjust spot on the left side of the bike! I can adjust the screw without removing anything to get get to it and I can turn it by hand. Now that I have found that little trick the next TPS reset will take me 10 minutes! I would do a reset twice a year. | ||
| Tom_b |
I found out the hard way. Not only at tps reset will clear problems, but make sure the afv is set correctly | ||
| Id073897 |
Setting the AFV will usually not harm but also be not lasting. A new AFV is learned within seconds while running the engine in calibration mode. So setting the AFV is mostly kind of unnecessary, except in some rare cases. Regards, Gunter | ||
| Tom_b |
Gunter, when i did my tps reset and diagnostic with ecmspy i could not get my x-1 to run right. my afv was 134, when i rest it 100 it smoothed out and ran great. I posted on another thread wondering what caused it to go haywire | ||
| Oldog |
Gunter is it reasonable that the o2 values govern the Average,[?Adaptive?] Fueling, Value? if the o2 indicates lean from, say an air intake leak or a temp sensor shift. If the problem is corrected but the AFV is not then the system may not re learn (correct) If the condition is not reached to allow adjustment? can you tell us what speed range that the learn mode is active, I recall that the number is 2700 rpm | ||
| Jstfrfun |
Bottom line here psycik is that you really need to have the correct software and computer skills to set up and diagnose your Buells parameters. Fear not however cause Al at American Sport Bike waked me right through it all(helluva guy that Al)painlessly, you do need to let him know what kind of port you intend to use on your computer(serial or USB)for the proper connector. | ||
| Jos51700 |
"but make sure the afv is set correctly" There is NO such thing. There are typical values, and atypical values, and it is constantly dynamic when riding. After all, it's the "adaptive fuel value". Changing constantly is what it's supposed to do. | ||
| Tom_b |
Jos51700, under the diagnostic sections of the ecmspy program it explains the AFV. There is the ability to reset it. have you used the program? I have. http://www.ecmspy.com/tuning_guide.shtml | ||
| Dfbutler |
Does the ECM spy software work on earlier tuber Buells, i.e. S3? From the documentation, it seems to apply to later bikes. | ||
| Jramsey |
Works with all models '99 up with DDFI. | ||
| Jstfrfun |
The AFV is supposed to be set static on 100 then adjust from there...sort of a baseline. | ||
| Psykick_machanik |
So what I am hearig is that I need a laptop,connector cable, and the right software. Sounds do-able. Will a MAC scan-analizer with the buell cartrage do the same? | ||
| Fullauto |
I use a PC with a long cable out of my computer room window. | ||
| Bartimus |
so where is the plug located on tube framed buells? | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My X1 plug lives in the right side-front of the gas tank. There is a clippy thing that holds it to the frame. It's sort of a tongue and groove type of thing that you can slide the plug and free it from the frame. | ||
| Dfbutler |
Does anyone know if the connector and cable that comes with VDSTS will also work with ECMSPY? | ||
| Oldog |
Df I tried it and it wont work, the solution is to get a plug & cable assembley from Mouser electronics, the part#'s etc are in the KV / archive. the matching connector for the bike can be purchased from various sources this too is documented Search ECM SPY here on badweb. (Message edited by oldog on June 11, 2008) | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
Dfbutler, Yes, the connector and cable that comes with VDSTS work with ECMSPY. I have the VDSTS and ECMSPY and the connector and cable that comes with VDSTS work well on both. Regards. | ||
| Tom_b |
Buellistic, which cable do you have? there are 3 different cables available for the vdts system. the one i have won't work with ecmspy either (Message edited by tom_b on June 13, 2008) | ||
| Oldog |
there are 3 different connectors available for the vdts system ????? news to me, my apologies DF..} | ||
| Tom_b |
serial port, usb port or usb with keyspan. | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
The three working well with the ECMSPY(serial port, usb port or usb with keyspan), in laptop and PC. | ||
| Dfbutler |
Buellistiex1, so if I establish a link with the VDSTS and switch to ECMSPY the link will be there? | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
I've never tried what you say Both software use the same serial port (Com 1 or one other Com, but always the same). you must first connect the VDSTS, then it off and then connect the ECMSPY. I do it this way and work properly |
