| Author | Message | ||
     Dreadnaught1 |
I am nearing completion on my 2000 Buell M2 rebuild, since I am new to these I noticed something on the front forks and front wheel. It looks like you COULD?? mount another rotor on the front left side of the rim and it looks like you COULD? mount another caliper on the left fork mount. Has anyone attempted this using stock parts? Maybe there is an adapter or spacer to mount it correctly. You could splice it into the front brake line. It seems with minimal machine work it could be done. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
There was a kit available to add a 2nd rotor and caliper. They pop up every once in a while on Ebay. However, they for the most part are "unobtanium" and VERY expensive if you do find one. If memory serves, it consisted of a rotor, caliper, new master cylinder and brake lines. Figure around $500 or so if you locate one. Brad | ||
| Dreadnaught1 |
Not as bad as a $1800 Brembo kit.. | ||
| Jayvee |
I think with minimal machine work, you could remove those supernumerary lugs. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
An old racer said to me "can you lock the front wheel at speed" I said yes, "than way would you want to add more weight on a system that works?" I got the point | ||
| Dreadnaught1 |
Old racers ran on spoked rims, drum brakes, crappy helmets and wore little body protection. Just because they did it, does not make them smart or relevant. It was at the time they raced. I can lock the wheels of an old car at speed, does it make the system the best, or are 4 wheel discs and ABS better? | ||
| Djkaplan |
What they're getting at is the big 340mm disc and 6 piston caliper were designed to replaced two smaller discs with 4 piston calipers. Adding another huge disc with another whopping big six piston caliper would be doubling the unsprung weight for no good reason. If you really are set on dual discs, two smaller discs and lighter calipers would make more sense from weight/performance aspect. But if it's just the look of dual discs you want, go for it. Buell understood this and sold a kit for a while. Not many people bought enough of them to keep it in the inventory though. | ||
| Dreadnaught1 |
I understand this but obviously Hugie03fhlr does not. It seems some do not see the need for dual brakes. I am trying to obtain one kit sometime in the future. But next year if I have $1800 it will not be on a Brembo kit it will be a Baker 6 Tranny. | ||
| Big_koch |
Only advantage dual discs has is the look. The old car reference was irrelevant. And...good luck locking the wheels of that old car at speed! (doubtful) His point was this: forget the ABS modulation...it doesn't apply here "obviously". If you can lock the wheel....how much more performance can you achieve? NONE! Edit: Also...can't "splice" the second caliper into the first line anyhow. Need a different master cylinder to run two calipers. Bore size will be different. (Message edited by big koch on April 21, 2008) | ||
| Court |
>>>Only advantage dual discs has is the look. And . . .you get to ride more since it takes longer to stop the motorcycle. The weight more than offsets the additional surface area. A wheel that is not touching the ground provides ZERO stopping power. MASS is your enemy. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
THANKS GUYS, for explaining my "OLD RACERS PROVERB" I could not have said it better myself and maybe someone learned something!  | ||
| Djkaplan |
It seems some do not see the need for dual brakes. Most of us actually. | ||
| Oldskoolef |
If you are really dying to it. I have a black anodized left hand, billet aluminum PM caliper from a S2 in my garage. I was saving it for a future project, but for a good enough offer it can be yours. You will loose stopping distance by having it but will gain cool points. | ||
| Beachbuell |
I like the mounting holes on the other fork. Its a nice "conversation piece" and adds more "character" to the bike.  | ||
| Jayvee |
To me they always looked like something just fell off... | ||
| Dreadnaught1 |
Well, it seems I learned a little and will probably stick with a single front brake but will upgrade to better rotors. The whole reason I started thinking this. My buddies have Ducati Monsters 750's. 97 & 2001. 97 single rotor, 2001 dual. Talk about effort night and day on stopping effort and feel. Besides the Buell, it seems that all sportbikes have duals these days. * * Yes I know why, XB's have a single but it is too much effort and expense to upgrade to new rims and the forks, etc to get this. I found the Buell part number for the duals (Obsolete) and got interested. Now I will just upgrade the rotors and maybe ferodo pads. Not that I a displeased with the brakes but if something is/was marginal on any of my vehicles I "upgrade" when I do a repair or rebuild. I guess that is why I ended up after 3 years with a Ford Crown VIC Interceptor with 315hp at the rear wheels, at 4075lbs it moves. | ||
| Big_koch |
If you're simply looking for better performance, check out the Lyndall Gold pads. I almost sold my M2 due to HORRIBLE braking (causing a high-side into the curb on my first ride) with the stock-spec pads, but read here about the Lyndalls and gave them a try. They, along with a braided rear line, made all the difference in the world. | ||
| Jayvee |
Race Tech had some Ceramic rotors at the Cycle World show last fall, they completely kicked a$$, but they only make them for Ducatis, not Buells. But I bet Kosman or Banke could make some inner carriers for them. Then the dual rotors weight would be moot (double of NOTHING.) They were freaking amazing, weightless rotors. I would have bought one on the spot, if they had an M2 version, even though they were about $900 each or whatever. I have the RaceTech ductile iron rotor now, no complaints about the front, it's a two-finger stopper at worst. Most of the time just one finger. (No, not that finger...) (Message edited by jayvee on April 23, 2008) |
